Well Loeb was at Le Mans last weekend - a lot of the VW-Audi top brass were there - or am i putting 2 + 2 together and getting 22????Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
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Well Loeb was at Le Mans last weekend - a lot of the VW-Audi top brass were there - or am i putting 2 + 2 together and getting 22????Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
The solution there is to drive his own hired Skoda and paste them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
He will be there with RedBull team as always.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildsir
I believe Kankkunen is one of those because I heard he was already with some VW testing...
Well his boss Olivier Quesnel and a lot of PSA top brass were there also...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
The same Juha Kankkunen who choose a tyre just because it was the nearest by to his car, is being contracted as a devellopment driver for VW?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
How big is he in develloping rallycars, did he have major input in the Lancia, Toyota and Huyndai? How much knowledge does Juha K have of modern rallycars?
Since they both have ties to VW pair Kankkunen with Sainz and watch the sparks fly all over again. It's silly but fun to think about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
hahahhahahHhha!! That is classic! I think Sainz is definatly a tester for VW as will Nasser in the WRC (Sainz will do outside work) and all bets are on anyone else. I doubt a vintage Fin, no offense to a legend; will have anything to do. I agree, modern car with a retired driver... What did he say last time he drove a Focus WRCar last year or year before?!?? Point proven guys... Come on, it's getting really silly in here!Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
At the moment, for me will be something like LOEB(or P.Solberg)-LATVALA-AL ATTIYAH!
Have the physics changed lately or what I am missing here? I'm sure Mr Kankkunen knows exactly what makes a good rally car be it modern or old one...Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Before you critisize Juha you have to look who was ralliart's tester when tommy was driving for ralliart.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Please, read carefully. DonJippo was defending Juha Kankkunen!
I think that was Lasse Lampi.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Yes i know ,my answer was not for the donjippo,but to the person that donjippo gave the answer.I tried to post ALL donjippos post (including his quote) but it wasnt possible.Sorry for the missunderstanding.
YES YES YES(NICE MEMORY) .Your answer is the answer for the people who dont believe juha is the appropriate driver for the project.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
modern rallycars have much more electronica, and high tech material, so you need more then 4 wheels, a good looking car and an engine to make a good rallycar. Citroen has 10 year sof up to date rally experience of modern WRcars, they dominating it for 6 years. VW has only memories of Group A, a Dakar winning rally raid car and 2 old rally drivers (Sainz and Kankkunen) with a lot of experience, but non with up to date experience. VW needs a driver with devellopmint skills and experience of modern cars, otherwise it will be a Toyota F1 look a like disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Again my question: how good is Kankkunen in develloping a championship winning rallycar and how much did he contribute to rallycars of Lancia, Toyota? His latest project was the Hyundai Acccent, which disappeared into the night without succes, even a podium. Sure KK is one of the biggest in rally, but driving brilliant and making a car brilliant are 2 different things.
When Lassi Lampi devellopt a brilliant car brilliant suited for Makinen (1994-2000), the group A technice was much simpler. Mitsubishi's WRcar (2001-2003) was not such a succes. Did Lampi suddenly loose his touch, or did the technice of the WRcars reach above his level of experience? WRCars of 2012 are above the level experience of Kankkunen.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Modern WRCars are much harder to devellop especially against a dominating Citroen. look at Ford, lots of recent experience and still being head slapped by Citroen
Lasse Lampi is working in Škoda now. It's mostly about helping Hänninen but still he is useful for sure.
Lasse lampi makes me sick....he did many wrong things just to promote a paper champ (but hell fast nonetheless)...thank god Loeb squashed the paper record in no time and he will be easily forgotten.
Trust me he is good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
For most probably yes but for you he seems to be unforgettable...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Are you talkin' about Makinen? Great driver.
Great driver and one of the fastest yes...but at what expense ??
At expense of Nokia (co-driver now must go to jail) or whatever. :D
Mitsubishi's wrcar(2001-2003)was not good not because the technice of the WRcars reach above his level of experience.The problem was that the car was one of the worst in the championship.With that car he couldnt do something to improve it(the only thing he could do was to persuade ralliart to make a new car)Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
At expense of Nokia (co-driver now must go to jail) or whatever.
What bull **** are you talking here? Makinen has nothing to do with this incident.
The driver you are talking about is an amateur driver who has never been outside Finland believe me I know.
All group A cars had an active central differential by the end of 1995. The current WRC cars don’t have a central differential at all. Also about the electronics I wouldn’t be so sure about. Current WRC cars only electronics is the ECU (engine management).
For a driver to develop a car it’s not about the engine or the electronics, it’s about to find the best suspension and drivability, the rest is the headache of the engineers.
Yes, but seriously Look up on video/youtube and see if you can find out what Juha said about driving a current Ford Focus WRCar during one of his comebacks (Finland 09' or 10')Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
There will be your answer!!
You should not have told that, now the less gifted with brains starts to think that when their favorites dont do result, its because they are forced to drive with Juhos settings or that they dont get any test time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Take a look at the post #427 that's where the answer is.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Neste Oil Rally Finland:
Andreas Mikkelsen
Joonas Lindroos
there is no sign of Nassser Al-Attiyah in the Finland entries. Though he is nominated to race a Ford Fiesta in the Paphos Rally (MERC round) the coming weekend
http://www.caa.com.cy/sport/2011/paf...of_entries.pdf
Looks like no VW deal for Al-Attiyah: Al-Attiyah set to turn down long-term deal with Volkswagen - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
cheaper to pay for mini instead of VW....
Mikkelsen I can uderstand, but I would have taken Nikara instead of Lindroos from Finland. Lindroos has not been showing good speed at Finnish Championship this year and has no expirience on WRC rallies (except Finland)Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
That´s true! Nikara has been faster during this year and he is driving old Evo 9. Lindroos has much more points and is second in the series only one point behind Salo. Would be interesting to know how they chose the drivers...? Was there anything truth about Kankkunen driving one car...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
so what do the people who believed that VW actually was going to pay the tourist say now ????Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
pppffftttt....
What do you think? Offcourse not.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Mitsubishi had bad engineers until Mario Fornaris came there. He completely revolutioned the project... and the first results in the 2nd half of the year were so much interesting. Shame that the 06-spec was not developed and put on stages even if driven by privateers! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Hrmmm.... interesting!