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Entry fee (3000 euros) had to be paid to be on the list..
I tought the entry was for free for this edition of Monte?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
That's why it was 305 entrants.. Only with paid entry fee or S2000 car or big name it was possible to be on the list..
Also seems that Chentre will not start with the DS3.....
Who knows if they have made also spare list to replace these guys that allready know they will not be able to compete? It would be interesting to know if they have such a list and what names are on it. :)
There are 30 names, with 5 drivers in GT cars. I think that the first name on the entry list is Romain Dumas with his Porsche ;) But we don't know who are the others guys ...
Ok, thanks for the info. Does anyone know the other names on this list? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
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Originally Posted by Fly
Only 207 S2000 drivers forfaits until now... :mad:
List of the names is much bigger...Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Are the GT cars approved in Monte in 2011?
Yes
it's what AH said in his presentation of the rally. René Isoart doesn't said any name in his interview after ...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Video from test JM Raoux:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcvd1HPNxCo
Video from Julien Maurin test
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg9...ort#from=embed
Maybe tomorrow entrylist in seeded order :confused:
Test of Andreas Aigner: http://rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=5121
Video from Andreas Aigner test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRwMNygeVSY
Been yonks since I was last on. I sort of went into, out of and back in the WRC quite quickly when it became apparent how good Seb Loeb was. I saw little to keep me captivated. But I said to myself that I would begin interest in the IRC as the IRC has more about it I think, and here I am.
I know the N4 teams are those competing with S2000 machines like the Peugeot 207, Skoda Fabia, Ford Fiesta, Proton Satira Neo and possibly Mitsubishi Lancer Evo.
But as for the others, I think I have classified them all correctly. According to the entry list below, Civics, although they are really R3 cars theirs some in group A7. Things like the Peugeot 207, Citroen DS3 and Abarth 500 all compete in the R3T group. The Renault Twingo and Citroen C2 are classified under R2 whilst the Suzuki Swift are N1 and N2 cars.
But I know I am sure there will be some who intend to do the full campaign. Does anyone know who intends to do the whole season?
http://www.ircseries.com/html/upload....EntryList.pdf
Egoi Eder Valdés has also withdrawn...
http://www.revistascratch.com/nacion...e-asfalto-3149
i really hope they have enough nice cars to fill up the startlist...the other names dont really tell me anything, but robert and wittmann are defenetly great drivers to watch. sad they wont start :(
There is few nice cars and good drivers on waiting list, but as organisers are still not giving any informations (and start of the recce is very soon), there will be problem that some drivers from waiting list lost (or will loose) their interest...
I agree with you PLuto - with additional comment: there is no problem of lack of interest, but they face a lot of problems with last minute logistics. Why they are waiting so long, as far as I know all the accepted drivers have to confirm their participation till 23.12. (if I remember correct)? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
So, do we know who the permenant 2WD teams/drivers are yet? The IRC website has not updated the rosters and probably won't do till we know the full roster of main season-long 2WD drivers to add to those 21 or so in the S2000 roster like Hanninen, Kopecky, Wilkes, Maghales and Sarrazin in the Skoda's, Peugeot's, Proton's, Fiesta's and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo's and not just those doing one-off's which don't appeal to me somehow.
There is no registration for IRC competitors so there is no list and never will be. It's all up to competitors whether they start in more rounds or not. Maximum best seven results count. And by the way Hänninen won't start in IRC regularly, probably only Monte Carlo and Barum.
I am new to the IRC so I am not up on such rules and regs. I just saw the end of the last year on Eurosport which I had just gotten in about October or November and saw it looked decent. As good as the WRC in my view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So those on the entry list for Monte-Carlo they are all down as to start round one but not necessarily the whole season?
Yes, this is advantage against WRC - in IRC you should start only on one event, on three events, on six events, in all events. Everything depends on your budget and you can change plans during the season. In WRC, if you want to take points in WRC Teams, PWRC, SWRC, JWRC/WRC Academy you must register before season, make regular number of events (sometimes in countries which arent interesting for you and for your partners) and if you must retire during season, it is big problem...
Only a number of drivers is planning to compete for the IRC title. Loix, Mikkelsen, Magelhaes, Wilks Neuville, maybe Kopecky, And the Proton team plans a whole season, probarly with the same 2 drivers (Anderson and Atkinson). All the other drivers do only 1, 2,3, 5 rallies (Al Attiyah, Ten Brinke, Gardemeister, Bouffier, Kruuda) . The advantage of IRC is that all drivers have excess to rallywinning cars. The privateer Skoda Fabia is (almost) the same as the factory Skoda Fabia, and any driver with a Ford Fiesta S2000 or Peugeot 207 S2000 can fight for victories. If they have the talent and maybe some luck :) .Quote:
Originally Posted by EavesFan09
The only downside to this easier and most purse-friendly way of doing things is it is hard for IRC fans to know who intends to do which round(s). The only way of knowing is to read the full entry list before each event and try not to read too much into the group they are in, like R2 and so on. But if you want to battle for the title, as I read it, you must compete in a minimum of 7 rounds because it is the best 7 scores are counted.
But that is all.
McRae is the only fixed driver of Proton for the "whole season" (whatever the team will do...)!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
You almost got it. However. If you do only 6 events and you have more points than those whose best 7 events count, then you are still champion. The rule just says that best 7 events counts. You can do more or less.. no worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by EavesFan09
Well.Practically you should count two classes in IRC.
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There is 2WD championship for drivers where all cars with 2 Wheel drive are eligible for the points. Points are divided according to the old system: best 2wd=10 points, second=8points, third=6points, fourth=5points etc.
Difference is in 2WD makes championship. Only registered manufacturers can collect points there. Those should be: 1)Ford, 2)Peugeot 3)Fiat 4)Honda and 5)Skoda. Those who are not registered (Renault, Suzuki etc) are not in the classification.
Example:
1.Fiesta ST 10 points
(2) Suzuki swift no makes points
2. Fiat 8 points
(3) Renault Clio no makes points
3. Fiesta ST 6 points
4. Peugeot 206 RC 5 points
5. Fiesta ST 0 points (only two best cars of the same make count)
6. Honda civic Type-R 3 points (the third Fiesta "neutralized" the 4 points and therefore Honda collected only 3 points).
So, here is another dimension. If there are more than three cars from the same make, only two best collect the points for manufacturer. However, the other cars from the same make neutralize the points for their respective position in top 8.
It is practically same in overall championship (best overall 8 get the points). But here, all non registered manufacturers are not counted (even the drivers). So, if you are driving Citroen and you win the rally, you are invisible for IRC. If 2WD crew is in top 8 by the end of the rally.Then he/she collects overall and his 2wd points.
You should keep your eye on the following drivers who might fight for overall honors in 2011:
1. Peugeot
Neuville
Wilks
Magalhaes
2. Skoda
Kopecky
Mikkelsen
Loix
3. Ford
uuups??noone?
Al Attyah?
There might be some more good drivers joining little bit later during the season. However, there are only some speculations about their participation (Kruuda, Bouffer, Vouilloz etc.).
Some good drivers join only for Monte (with good coverage it is much easier to acquire your budget) and some of the join later due to the fact that Monte is so early in the season and some drivers and co-drivers are occupied by their Dakar commitments (McRae, Prokop, Attyah etc.) which ends later than Monte starts.
Good and complete explanation Bluuford! ;)
I agree with morganmilan totally. The hypothethical 2DW manufacturers placing you game with the Fiesta ST winning explains things about three cars from the same manufacturer being in the points paying positions quite well for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Say Martin Prokop is the driver in the third Fiesta for example Barwa. Because he finished 3rd, no matter where his fellow Fiesta runner finished in the points paying positions, his fellow driver in the Ford Fiesta doesn't get the points for his manufacturer for his placing. Though he will probably do in the 2WD Drivers Championship he won't get the points for Ford.
Which I think works well for those for teams able to run their eligible manufacturer (Ford, Peugeot, FIAT, Honda & Skoda) cars strongly. The best teams running drivers comitted to running a longer program in the IRC this year will gain the most points for the manufacturer that makes their car.
But I think those makes NOT eligible are good cars for drivers only comitted to doing one or two rounds but want a good rally car that will take them to a good time.
If the cars are not eligible to score points for the manufacturer then presumably they aren't eligible for drivers points.
If that be true, I don't myself see a whole lot of good in scoring points in an Abarth Punto or Peugeot 207 if your only doing one or two rounds.
Seems almost a waste when those points could have gone to a driver in a fellow eligible car who has finished below him/her who is participating in a much longer program in the series and looks good for a strong finish.
It seems that Giandomenico Basso will start Monte in a Peugeot 207 S2000.
(info taken from an italian forum, so handle with care!)
Has Kubica decided if he will drive MC, and in what car ?
Motoring news had a piece with his manager saying he probably would get a S2000 and felt he was ready for that after du Var.
As one of the reservists, the young French Stéphane Lefebvre and Nicolas Gilsoul took advantage of the dropouts already announced and they will actually be starting in the Rallye Monte Carlo with a Renault Twingo R2.
http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blo...ace2010-10.jpg
If he is still a Renault F1 driver then my logic comes to the conclusion it has to be a Renault Clio R3. Indeed autoevolution.com reports this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ro...rlo-15235.html
I know you all know about this aleady but I also see Heikki Kovalainen was rumoured to be running a Proton Satira Neo 2000 in the Artic Rally.
I assume R3 is the 2WD cars btw.
Reservists? Are they basically what is says on the tin? Drivers who will go rallying in th event of another drivers withdrawl?Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
Also does anyone know the full entry list for Monte Carlo? Or is it basically whoever is on the list provided by the IRC website?
EDIT: Florian Gonon will do MC in a Subaru Impreza
http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=2361
Jan 2010 ! News...Quote:
Originally Posted by EavesFan09
So?Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ