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This is what happens when you're not prepared for the cold season, have fun:
http://www.break.com/index/icy_roads_in_portland.html
Too bad you gave him an explanation 180 degrees from the way clutch plate diffs work.Quote:
Originally Posted by driveace
I'm always fascinated at the consistancy of "explanations" of how diffs---evidently "sense" slip and then "they....." do something...
Multi-plate diff with preload is a series of clutch discs and plates splined alternately to the fiff case of the sidegears of the diff, The proload and the action of simple rotation puts pressure on the plates and discs progressively locking them hard against each other....
IF when going round a tight corner such as a T junction where different rate of turning is desired IF the rotational difference is enough to overcome the friction between the plates and discs, THEN there'll be some slipping of the plates and discs----until the need for differentiation passes and you're back to drive to both sides...
As an example: in my fwd 1969 Saab, I set the preload to around 95-110 ft/lbs of torque...
That is it is LOCKED with power going to both sides UNTIL the torque "breaks loose" at 95-110 ft/lbs and that is commonly referred to as "Breakaway torque".
My Last Saab 900, with power steering nd a multi-plate diff, i set the break-away torque at around 125-135 ft/lbs.
Swedish Championship contender level guys in Sweden said with FWD cars and PS, they set the torque to min 175 ft/lbs "so if you break and axle or CV you can drive out".
Note that what I contemptuously call "twirly gear" "Torque Sensing" things are useless in snow/ice..
VC diffs work fine in snow and ice if they're fresh and set tighter than the usually come OEM.
What sort of 900 was it? My old folks have a 1990 900i with various things on it which keep on breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
One for Donkey Jote to put up on the wall at work ;)
http://oi52.tinypic.com/nzr8eo.jpg
Can anyone (not you Donks!!!!) tell me what's hilariously wrong with this picture? :D
Rear wheel drive vehicle :dozey:
(the plate number may indicate the reason... :p : )
Well it's a step in the right direction. Shame the step would be straight back down the hill though :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
As Bill & Marty would say...... WE HAVE A WEINER!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by schmenke
The price of this panzerwagen :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
That fella is clueless....but at least he can steer! He cant get any traction however...lmao...
what a donkey!
I mean, if you only have 2 chains then at least put one on the front and one on the rear eh? :erm: :uhoh: :arrows:
Please tell me that car isn't missing chains on the driven wheels! :eek:
We've got a dump of snow forecast for tomorrow and into Saturday. I'm hoping it's as bad/good as is being forecast :D
I hope I can fly back home on Friday :s
although it is nice to be by the sunny seaside and work outside in short sleeves in Winter :bandit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Daniel: Hello boss. I can't come to the office today due to the weather :(
Boss: Hello Daniel.. what's the problem? :confused:
Daniel: I don't have winter tyres, so I can't drive in the snow :uhoh:
Boss: Ohh.. I see. Please take some time off. :)
Daniel: Thanks boss :p :
I have to work the time back though
Daniel: Hello boss. I can't come to the office today due to the weather.
Boss: Hello Daniel.. what's the problem?
Daniel: I don't have winter tyres, but I have installed chains, but I still can't seem to drive in the snow.
Boss: Ohh.. I see. Did you install the chains on the drive wheels?.
Daniel: Doh!
Boss: See you at work.
Well a friend rang me today,his mate wants some 225x50x17 winter tyres(for his Audi A6)but nobody round here has any.Mytyres on the net has ,them advertised,but by phone admit,they are struggling,and lots of the advertised tyres are not available.Drivers seem to be in panic to buy winter tyres,and in some areas there is a shortage of available tyres to be had
Thinking about it, now in Germany you have to have winter tyres after a specific point. Where do the "summer" tyres go when it's winter and the winter ones when it's summer?
I would suggest in most areas that there is little or no stock. Apparently the number of people regularly swapping wheels over is 2% so even if only 3% of people are now fitting them this is a 50% increase in demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by driveace
Personally if I had the money to be splashing out on a nice newish A6 (assuming from the size of the wheels :p ) then rather than risking it in the snow and paying silly prices for those I'd just buy myself a used Panda 4x4. At the moment you're looking at something silly like £800 for a full set of winter tyres then there's a set of wheels and fitting as well! I reckon you could buy the Panda, insure, tax, maintain and run it and still be better off!
I quite fancy a 4x4 Panda and I'm going to do my best to convince Caroline that we need one :p
Why not? Swap it with the 500........ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Nah :) 500 is silly cheap to run and if it was to replace anything it would be the Subaru which would become a weekend car ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
225x50x17 ?? Why on earth ???Quote:
Originally Posted by driveace
You aint gonna pick up no ho's running 195/65 r15's AFF :pQuote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
It's not the wheels you pick ho's up with, it's the pling pling. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
After my drive home from work tonight- YES
Muwhahahaha. One down, only a few more million to go :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
But as Donkey Jote (who works for a large and very reputable European tyre firm who make the tyres fitted to a good proportion of European cars when purchase) says, winter tyres are not just for the snow :) They're for low temperatures. During autumn when it starts to get cooler and is generally a bit damp I can feel a marked decrease in performance from my summer tyres (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A's which I feel offer very very good performance in the summer) and my little 1.2 Fiat 500 starts getting wheelspin which I personally don't feel is something such an underpowered car with 69bhp should do and it also starts to feel a bit vague through the corners and squirrely under hard braking. I'm not talking about driving in snow and ice here, I'm talking about a chilly day or a chilly day with damp roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
For me this is enough to warrant having different tyres, the performance in the snow and ice is just a very very welcome bonus. We're going out for a drive through Snowdonia today which was apparently badly hit by the weather yesterday and I simply wouldn't dream of doing that on the summer tyres even if the roads were ploughed which I'm sure they will be.
I'm making an assumption but if you've got an A5 then I'm assuming money is not majorly tight ;) I think getting wheels for an A5 will be a bit costly unless you get some cheep off ebay, but the tyres won't be that expensive and at the end of the day 2 sets of tyres just means you delay your next summer tyre purchase by a bit so it ends up not costing you much extra. That's the one major thing that people struggle to comprehend for some reason :crazy: As Donks also says, summer tyres wear more in the winter so your summer tyres will last more miles than they did before. So far my summer tyres have done 16.5k miles and are about 30-40% worn so I would expect them to last another 2 or 3 summers on top of the 1.5 they've already had.
I think a case can definitely be made for them on the basis of them saving you money or at the very least actually costing very little in the long term whilst offering safety and convenience benefits.
If possible, try your bosses car on a damp and cold day above freezing and see what you think about the tyres :) Glad you got the opportunity to give them a try :)
A couple of pictures from today.
I would img tag them but people run around screaming like you've sexually assaulted their goat when you upload anything bigger then a 10x10 pixel jpeg around these parts :p
Clicky! :)
http://oi51.tinypic.com/30hpjxs.jpg
http://oi53.tinypic.com/2i03tpx.jpg
Car was absolutely fine in those conditions :up:
Would have gone the whole way up the Llanberis Pass and over the Denbigh Moors but health and safety (Caroline) said no :p
Watched your vid. I would say there was almost as much snow as that in Llanberis in parts but nowhere near up to your knees as you said earlier today on another thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Your video had this one of the suggested videos :D
[youtube]PApZm9-rwFc&NR=1[/youtube]
Do you not have a mapping app on your Android phone to help you find your way around? :)
You mean like 25 cm?! :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
This is j-u-s-t unbelievable. Why, why, WHY they keep on braking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Are you suggesting that Henners is Bernie Ecclestone? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
:eek: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
No tyre can be sufficient in case the driver is an idiot...
OK! maybe the guy who put the chains on the front tyres of his Beamer was just trying to avoid this happening. :p :
I know this sounds crazy, but the Volvo 240 I used to own had these huge bumpers front and rear and they were mounted on shock absorbers. Now we know why. :D
As the Economist said though, you know what will happen if the government starts pushing people to buy winter tyres because of the weather. The Daily Hate will run headlines like "Filthy Eurocrats force brave Brit drivers to fork out £400 a year on useless tyres". You just can't win...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Nope, you really can't. I certainly wouldn't go out without winter tyres in this sort of weather
Having seen the traffic conditions and how most cars on the road are affected, I'd rather not take my car out in that traffic. Some bugger could hit you (see above vid) while you are going nicely yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Caroline needs that sense of adventure! Looks like a decent snow, but nothing horrible by my standards. That said, I take it half the locals are acting like the world came to an end!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I would shock you with what you can get away with in this sort of weather. It can be done, just it shouldn't be done....Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Buddy of mine drove his Dodge Dakota "Sport" pickup to Kingston, 2 hours east of here Saturday, and we went through snow squalls. The roads were greasy and then snow covered in spots....he has 235/r55 BF Goodrich T/A's..a very much a summer style all around tire...and he never had an issue. IN a PICKUP! I say he is nuts...but he has driven for 30 years and never had an accident. IT CAN be done...I just wish people would learn to handle snow.
That said, If own the pickup, winter tires on on that puppy in December.....