Kimi was not beaten comprehensively by Massa if you look at scored points per finished race, qualifying positions, WDC's. They were very very equal for the last three years according to statistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJL25
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Kimi was not beaten comprehensively by Massa if you look at scored points per finished race, qualifying positions, WDC's. They were very very equal for the last three years according to statistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJL25
Next year is going to be interesting, for me at least. I have to forget about Heikki's treatment and start cheering for Mclaren again, on the other hand I will be supporting a certain currently injured Brasilian in a red car. It's not going to be easy. :rolleyes: Fred isn't the most popular man around here by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Heikki's treatment???Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I'll be supporting Massa too, and Alonso too for that matter.
Fact 1: Heikki has been slow, no doubt about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
Fact 2: Heikki has been forced to qualify heavy on most races.
Fact 3: Heikki has got updates later than Hamilton. (Nurburgring a good example)
I believe, and hope, Kimi will be treated in a more equal way which means getting the updates at the same time.
I'm not being nasty here, because I like Heikki, but he hasn't always made the best of good grid positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I think point 3 is a little harsh, because IMO if they don't have enough new parts for both drivers then they should leave them at home, but regardless, Hamilton has been faster.
However Kovy has still got a decent points total this year.
Uh? WDC: Kimi - 1, Massa - 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJL25
Kimi has always struck me as a driver who would retire early; so although McLaren is the obvious (only) option for a competetive ride next season there is still a chance he won't have the motivation to return to the team and try to re-establish himself at team McHamilton when he was once clear number one.
We shall see.
And you can stop bashing Kimi now as a Ferrari driver and start hating him as a McL drive again. Makes life so much simpler, doesnt it? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Ok thats freaky. Having posted this two minutes ago, I just looked on Autosport and spotted this;Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79082
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"For the moment, I haven't decided what I want to do next, whether I want to continue racing or not. I had a contract for next year, but now I don't, so that changes things. So maybe I race, maybe I do not."
It will be very sad if he retires. He can at least try more rallying or Le Mans, not just retire after such insulting treatment from Ferrari :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
He won't retire... here is quite a lengthy interview today from Kimi, where he gives some info why his Ferrari-career ended and what he will do next. :)
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...2009/10/965589
Its in finnish, of course. ;)
Please, can you make a summary of the interview?
No, some of us are just happy that we will be seeing the back of him. Dont let the door...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
Apparently WDC titles don't matter these daya because crap drivers win them while more deserving drivers come second ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
We'll see, maybe you'll see the back of his car very often next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
How? I dont drive in F1 :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
We have lovely onboards in these days :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I can't tell you how much I want him to come back to McLaren and for them to spank Ferrari next year. Can you imagine the bile and excuses that would follow :D
That is "old" interview. And not even Kimis words but his management staff. Some things in that "interview" are true of course. This is the summary of what you asked from Kimis interview today in MTV 3:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
He said that in the press there has been a false speculation for the reasons of his departure from Ferrari. It had nothing to do with his driving or his doings in Ferrari or his free time. He didn’t say it straight but the reason seemed to be Santander and its desire to get Alonso there.
He is also sure that he will get a good seat for next year. McLaren is strongest option but there is more choices also. Most important thing for him is to be in team capable of fighting for the championship. And the same applies to his possible rally-career in the future. Winning races and championships is what motivates him.
There are also many things that have to “click”, before he makes a contract with anyone. He also said that he has known quite a while that this is his last year in Ferrari.
Naturally the media were hoping for some criticisms of Raikkonen, but equally naturally, there were none. “You will never hear me saying anything negative about Kimi, never,” emphasised Domenicali. “Because he is a great champion and he is part of Ferrari’s history, having won the Drivers’ world title with us, achieving his ambition with us, so Kimi is part of our team. Kimi is fantastic"Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
http://www.ferrari.com/English/News/...omenicali.aspx
I think it's just about as likely to happen at McLaren. :erm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock on
I hope that you are right. On Monday, I wondered about something. Martin Whitmarsh suddenly started to praise Jenson Button very much. I wonder, whether McLaren and Brawn GP can swap their drivers? Button IMO can be solid number two to Lewis, while Kimi can go to Brawn GP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
I'd say it was better the other way round and I don't think he would enjoy it as much. He could do what he liked at Ferrari.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Insulting how? They paid the man more than any other driver over the last 3 years. They let him go because he underperformed for most of the last 2 years. I like Raikkonen but there were too many times that he seemed to cruise through a race, particularly in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Yes It's not any fun if you can't get a good trash talk quote, or sound bite ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
the only driver that could stand LH is kimi, he just don't care. All the other drivers have the emotions on the outside and will start a open fight and that will rip the team apart.
Only in the middle of 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
"Yep, get out, you only won one WDC out of a possible two!You are such a bad driver that we'll give you 40 million euros if you go. :) "Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
Intriguing... combine that with that Noble guy's tweet about possible big news on the driver merry-go-round, and the fact that Button has apparently not yet agreed terms with Brawn for next year... maybe you are on to something! It's a slim possibility though I think. If it turns out you're right, then perhaps you could PM me some lottery numbers ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
If we see Kimi in a Brawn next year I'd guess it would be replacing Rubens rather than Jenson.
2007, 2008, 2009 = 3 actually ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Are you seriously suggesting that a human could have won this year's championship with the current Ferrari? :rolleyes: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
Still can't understand, why did Kimi's initial contract include a clause, which enabled him to extend it until 2010 in what was effectively a 3+1 deal, so that Ferrari couldn't do anything about it last year. And such contract between Ferrari & Räikkönen/Robertson was done still in Todt's era. Mystery.
Kimi said in an interview that he could probably have continued at Ferrari in 2010 but there was no point because they (the team) wanted something else. There was no point in fighting them. He got compensation and they got what they wanted. He also commented on his troubles of 2008 and said that they suddenly changed the car which didn't work for him and it took a long time before they got back on the right track. Interesting stuff.
http://www.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/78251.html
The questions is, he is talking too much about not racing next year and just retiring from F1.
Wouldn't put it past him.
I would hate it though. He has unfinished business in F1.
"And what does this have to do with Kimi", you ask, and quite rightly.
This was stated by Maurizio Arrivabene, Marlboro's deputy chairman: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...012433,00.html
His comments raise the question of why an apology should be required as Stoner is understood to be suffering from some form of chronic fatigue.
While Stoner, 23, was away Marlboro controversially instructed Ducati to make a huge offer -- far in excess of Stoner's multi-million-dollar salary -- to Spaniard Jorge Lorenzo, who ultimately decided to stay at Yamaha.
Arrivabene also controls sponsorship of the Ferrari Formula One team and gave the go-ahead for Kimi Raikkonen to be paid out for his 2010 contract this week so Fernando Alonso could replace him alongside Felipe Massa next season.
This does show who really holds the purse strings at both Ducatti and Ferrari, and when you hold the purse strings, you've got them by the balls.
And if you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
This.. I would love nothing better then for this to happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Unlike you I don't feel the need to hate anyone. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
I suppose you are taking Button's case as an example. ;) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Exactly, but Knockie never learns from his own mistakes. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve2009
Do you think they will often show onboard views from the Manor cars :?:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat