You want to know it? Google it! After all you seem to believe that you are better and deserve more than a fellow Bulgarian. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer
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You want to know it? Google it! After all you seem to believe that you are better and deserve more than a fellow Bulgarian. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer
Did you see anyone here dissecting Ron's private life, even though he went through a divorce?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I didn't. And honestly I don't care about his private life. The sexual preferences of other people are of no interest for me.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Is Max still available?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
It's interesting that since the outcome of the FIA EGM was known the number of votes in the forum poll for "I want Max Mosley to go" has increased significantly, whereas the vote "to stay" has increased by just 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Now he has won this first battle with the FIA he should resign before he has to go......He can not stay in power. Bernie said he was glad he wasn't pushed out with the vote, and that he should go in a dignified manner. Theres nothing diginified in Max Mosely. Surely he can see his time is up and if the manufacturers break away from the FIA, then we are heading down a road that will possibly cause the end of the FIA. All thanks to Happy Spanky, Max Mosely.........
Arrogant fool.
Most people are showing their frustration, much like in the posts!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
They didn't give a damn before the vote, then suddenly woke up and got frustrated about the issue. :p :
And you believe him?! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MAX_THRUST
Interesting stuff from Ed Gorman in The Times (Murdoch paper!!)
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It has often been pointed out by "those close to Mosley" that the FIA is not a motoring or sporting governing body so much as a political party with Mosley as its leader.
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Originally Posted by MAX_THRUST
I actually agree with Ioan on something. It's silly to make someone leave after being caught in an orgy with 5 hookers... especially after you ignored every sign of incompetence (and there were plenty of them) for so many years. It's good to see that FIA can be consistent in something... being dead wrong all the time.
Possibly one of the best posts on this thread. Have a Gold star :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
Let him speak for himself. And how is that powerhouse of all things motorsport Romania? Hardly think a Logan is a winning prospect at the moment...Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Oh dear, I've turned into Garry Walker. Get the cross and garlic... :eek:
Please keep racism off here, I didn't like your post about Bulgaria, neither do I like this one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer
Racism? I don't see any. I'm asking a perfectly reasonable question about their respective countries and their activities that allow a vote to count as the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Am I missing the subliminal racist remark? Likeing a post and not likeing it are hitherto niether here or there, if no forum rules have been broken, surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
As a mod, you canoot let your personal bias get in the way of your delegated function. :confused:
One shouldn't laugh at this but:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/...x-20080604997/
Thanks, another keyboard covered in coffee!Quote:
Originally Posted by A Scotsman
Health & Safety will 'jump on him' for incorrect use of a stepladder....... ;)
PETA will jump on him too about the incorrect use of all objects, I reckon... :sQuote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Sorry Pino but I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Can't see any hint of Racism at all and it seems a fair point to compare the comparitive sizes of the Romanian and American / German motoring organisations and their respective improtance to Motorsport in general.
More nationalism than racism in any case. I didn't know Romania and Bulgaria were populated by different "races"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Does chauvinistic sound any better to you?!Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Chauvinist and racist are just the same thing, only the reasons are slightly different.
But let's not get down to Doorslamer's level.
Oh lordy, here we go again. Enough already.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Monaro Doorslammer was using the various sizes/populations/demographics of different countries to make a fair and valid point.
Ioan, you are always so on the defensive, that you are looking for little 'digs' at you or your country which quite frankly are just not there mate.
The world and his rabbit are not against you, honest. ;)
Luckily it's nowhere near as low as you can get with some of your wise words.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Chauvinistic, in the way you are using it, relates to blind patriotism.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I don't think there was any reference to Doorslammers country was there.
The fact you don't agree with his point is no reason to slur the bloke and resort to personal comments is it?
I think that there is a very valid point comparing the size and influence of a representitve member against their voting powers, don't you?
I don't give a Tom Tit what the actual country is, just what power they represent.
If you're looking for anyone on here that is remotely racist in their comments, I suggest you speak with Tazio who dismisses any opinion contray to his as some sort of Ango conspiracy. Quite what the point is that he's trying to make is unclear but he keeps coming out with these rediculous statements.
Now, can we forget the silly accusations and get back to the subject?
Quite right. Now f1boat, you may continue...Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
I saw no racism either. Saying that one nation is larger or holds more sway than another is perfectly acceptable. I would say that Swaziland is a smaller player within the international community than is France. I don't consider that to be racist towards Swaziland.
Once again, I think there is a bit of faux outrage going on here based on other disagreements between members.
I think, and I may be wrong, that Switzerland lifted the ban in '06. Can't for the life of me remember where on Autosport I saw that referred to, might have been in the Journal, discussing Monaco and the downtrend in spending/advertising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey T
Ok it was not racism, but in both posts you were disparaging (kind of) those Countries, and members could be offended, hence my request to you. Case over, now back to the topic please :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer
They considered it, it was voted off I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
The vote's over , guys .
Max won .
There wouldn't have been any discussion about fairness , and percentages , and corruption , if Max was out .
Most here would have cheered that justice was done .
That is my opinion , but closer to fact than most here will admit .
Of course , a few of us will breathe a sigh of relief that justice was , in fact , served here , and breathe another sigh , as we realize this tactic , perhaps in future , will not be seen as an option for such corporate coups .
And , since it was pointed out that Max was paying for the video , there is a theft charge involved as well .
Who will fall , if not Max ?
I don't quite get this. Are you suggesting that people within the FIA who wanted him out colluded in the newspaper sting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
I think that's the point. Max "won".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Quite what he has won, and others have lost, will unfold in the coming weeks & months.
Bulgaria is a small country, but is full with many drivers and passionate Formula One. Check the Turkish Grand Prix, the Bulgarian fans were thousands, maybe even more that the Turkish ones. Check our wonderful European Rally "Bulgaria". With the small amount of money our federation has, it makes wonders and our vote is no less important than the vote of a western country.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
Because British pro-McLaren media tries to satanize him and consider that it is appropriate to discriminate an old man about his sexual preferences!
Does this explain the way in which he has been castigated in media all over the world, then, including in Germany? Not everything comes down to some perceived bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67969Quote:
The chairman of the South African governing body of motorsport says he did not agree with the outcome of yesterday's confidence vote against FIA president Max Mosley and is considering joining the clubs contemplating withdrawing from the FIA.
Well, you have to wonder why Bulgaria is such a hot bed in this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
In terms of size, it is 104th in the world at 111k km2 so pretty substantial with a population of 7,600k
Kazakhstan on the other hand is the 9th largest country in the world at 2,717k km2 but a population of only 15,000k
Both pretty large and just to keep Tazio happy for his Anglo comparison, it is 79th largest at 242k km2 and a population of 60,000k
Should they all get a single vote to reflect their status within the FIA?
How about the two smallest countries in the world? I think these demonstrate the point quite well.
1st, we have a cornerstone of Motorsport in Monaco. It has an area of just 1.95km2, is the 233rd largest (or second smallest if you prefer), country in the world and has a population of 33k. I would argue that they might be worth slightly more in their influence than that the Vatican which is 244th and smallest of countries with a population of 800 and a size of 0.44km2.
The way the FIA is structured makes the Eurovision Song Contest look credible :laugh:
Can we get Mr Terry 'Moleskin slacks' Wogan's opinion on this - he is, after all, an expert on Eurocobblers. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
One thing to note here is the way in which the vote was also split not just along national lines, but also, to a large extent, between the motorsport federations whose delegates Mosley had tried to gather support from, and the motoring organisations he didn't lobby as extensively. Surely it's time to end the pretence of the FIA being anything other than the governing body of world motorsport, and forget about its more general motoring responsibilities, which could then be hived off to another body?