The Crane and Lewis

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

When an accident occurs , and the car is beached , a driver is encouraged to exit quickly when he deems it safe , but he is also receiving instructions from 2 sources .
He will have his radio contact with his pits , and corner workers nearby . This is essential , as he is largely un-sighted in the cockpit .

I must watch the replay , as I want to see what instruction the corner guys were giving him , as it seems that perhaps words in his ear piece were telling him to stay put .
Being that there were cars careening towards them , one after another , those safety guys may have told him to stay strapped in , or may have overlooked him for a moment , as they saw to others' safety , or thier own .

The situation was similar in Brazil a few years ago , and we almost had a "crane" hit then , too .

In this case , being that he was in the same kind of safety cell that saved Kubica in Canada at frightening speed , and that a car even hit that "crane" while positioning to pick him up , I think he was wise to stay where he was , as he was likely in a safer place in the car at the time .


One question , though , would be why Luizzi was travelling that fast .
I know they are citing a suspension fault , but he flew over that curbing , just missing that safety car , before he stopped at the "crane" .

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Welcome back Bagwan, where have you been hiding? :p :

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

I guess you have been asleep for several years? Or maybe you never read British trash?

I'm so happy Hamilton showed up to show just how big of a fraud the British media is.

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Yes, well your dislike of everything British is well known.

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

Yes, well your dislike of everything British is well known.

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And well deserved.

I'll repeat a point I made earlier. Might have been in this thread, even. There's so much bollocks being talked that I forget.

You can argue all you like about whether Hamilton's "assist" was dangerous or unfair, but it was legal according to the letter of the rules. ANY competitive sportsman learns the rulebook and uses it to their advantage. If you don't like it, protest the FIA to change the rules. Don't criticise Hamilton for being smart enough to keep the engine running and get back on track.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" as I believe our transatlantic brethren would say.

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

It took effect according to the priority:
1. Who is still inside the intact car
2. Whose engine's car is still running
3. Who came in the gravel first
4. Who want to continue the race
5. Who is the promising driver to get any better after continuing the race

Hamilton had the above criteria :D

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Hamilton was one of the few who stopped short of hitting the barrier. Button had damage as did Sutil. At least one of the STR cars (Luizzi) was done for the day. Not sure about Scott Speed.

I don't think people realize the sheer stupidity exhibited by the FIA and what precedent has been set here. Now everyone will make sure they have a fool-proof anti-stall mechanism, and no matter what the conditions are or where they are at on the track, they can now demand that their vehicle be lifted back onto the track. Sounds like a pretty safe situation to me. Uh-huh.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

ANY competitive sportsman learns the rulebook and uses it to their advantage. If you don't like it, protest the FIA to change the rules.

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What rule?

Can you, please, post a link to the rule about what a driver has to do to be put back on the track by a crane?

I would protest to change a wrong rule, if this rule would exists.

But it doesn't.

Maybe he learned there was no rule!!

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Originally Posted by andreag

You can also watch how Lewis is about to be put on the track again, as Winkelhock car is coming after passing the line at the end of lap 3, without any trace of a safety car:

http://mm.motor21.com/%2FEspa%F1ol%2...milton_des.jpg

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I think under the yellow flag driver should have driven more carefully, and when SC was about to be deployed they must have been told by the team. Their drive licenses have to be investigated if they have accident under the yellow, or SC, let alone red flag. What the yellow color and SC means on the top of picture?

Was it yellow flag on left of picture or someone's yellow umbrella because it was rain, it's more similar as someone under yellow umbrella. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by andreag

I see; it was Davidson, who nearly reached the gravel when he spun off, stopping just in the border; he could restart unaided, and he was just leaving the dangerous line when the SC has to accelerate to avoid Liuzzi's hit from behind.

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Thanks. your eyes are better than mine. :)