Young talented drivers

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Maybe I missunderstood which rally or something, but not on this I reccon...

http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/28

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I think you are both talking about Rally Liepaja. But Rallyper means the ERC round held last week and EstWRC means probably Latvian championship round only. The Latvian championship was most probably held 1 or 2 hours after the ERC round?

Jarek Z, you're correct.

So conditions can´t really be compared I would presume.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

So conditions can´t really be compared I would presume.

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That boy is 15y old, can not drive ERC.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

I never praised the french system or the FFSA... in general i avoid praising people, teams, cars... the over glorification of things is something i despise. I only give respect when its due and for the right reasons, not because someone is from the same country as i am, not because i own a car from a manufacturer in the WRC and not because i met a driver once and he gave me his autograph and was nice to me...

I am just being honest and i speak the truth, i understand that most people cannot stand so much negativity because they already have enough during their sad days in this world and they probably come in here to cheer up and i spoil the fun... but i prefer to be honest, at least in that way you know what you are dealing with.

and the truth on this matter is that all these years the series were under the control of the managers that fed useless doggies to the WRC... i mean you have to be semi retarded to expect the best drivers to come from a country that has no idea what tarmac rallying is... but the managers paid the teams through sponsors and the teams were happy.... then the best driver in the history of motorsport came and teams realised that there is another way of doing things... and they followed that and we got Ogier now... think about it... Latvala through his managers and connections is in the sport for 10 years almost and Ogier comes again out of nowhere and ridicules him like a kid... if you cannot see somethign REALLY wrong with that picture you are just a star trek person... which is not necessarily a bad thing...maybe.

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I have to agree , but the reason why we have 'two frogs' dominating the sport is real competition in France .I was at the Rallye Du Var in 2012 i couldn't get over the amount of 'one make series' going on .
You had an R1 Class - The Renault Twingo Cup , ninteen entries - and one Ford Fiesta
The R2 Class :Renault Twingo R2 Cup , ten entries - and four other entries in different makes
The R3 class : thirty seven entries in total !
Peugeot 207 RC R3T cup :twelve cars
Citroën DS3 R3T cup : twelve cars
Renault Clio R3 Cup : seven cars
other makes : six cars
There are other cups going on on other French events in R1 and R2 classes etc , and why is this ? because France has three Car manufacturers - Peugeot , Citroën, and Renault so they are all competing against each other so young drivers get a chance . You dont have this in any other country.
And N.O.T your correct in saying that Latvala is being 'shoved on to us' he has more rallying done and yet he still is not a great driver - he is in the best car but most of the time cant get it over the line . In Germany 2014 when he had the Rally in his hand he decided to making wine instead !
You said Oj ridicules him - correct - At the Monte a few weeks ago i was in Sospel at regroup before the last stage and Latvala asked Ogier what was his time in the last stage ? response was ' ten faster then you ' .... just to mess with his head .
Wilson and all these managers etc have alot to answer for - more interested in what a doggie as you call them will bring to the team in the form of money- no interest in bringing a talented driver to the team .

who is Oj ?

Ogier .....thought you would have snapped on to that :-)

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Originally Posted by irish_tiger

And N.O.T your correct in saying that Latvala is being 'shoved on to us' he has more rallying done and yet he still is not a great driver - he is in the best car but most of the time cant get it over the line .
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Not a great driver? Second last year in WDC? Should WRC only have one driver or only French drivers? That would suit you, wouldn´t it?

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Not a great driver? Second last year in WDC? Should WRC only have one driver or only French drivers? That would suit you, wouldn´t it?

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Irish Tiger has a point.

It's hard not to agree that Lavala has not made the most of his opportunities and experience. And he doesn't half moan alot about not having the feeling, rhythm etc. He's quite capable of beating Ogier this weekend, but will he?

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Originally Posted by noel157

Irish Tiger has a point.

It's hard not to agree that Lavala has not made the most of his opportunities and experience. And he doesn't half moan alot about not having the feeling, rhythm etc. He's quite capable of beating Ogier this weekend, but will he?

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Not a great driver? I repeat. Well, he hasn´t made the first place. But still - not a great driver? The way people go in order to ashieve their goals vary. In his case he had better conditions than most others. Anything wrong with that?