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We both agree they are Liebherr :) Their engines are made in Switzerland and also the holding management is placed there. Otherwise they are present in many countries.
Kolomę decided to retire due to continuous problems which they can't properly fix on place.
Yesterday :
Bikes : new victory for Barreda, who try to take minutes by minutes on Coma.
1 Barreda (Honda)
2 Coma (KTM) 4'03
3 Despres (Yamaha) 5'35
4 Pedrero (Sherco) 6'57
5 Przygonski (KTM) 8'56
6 Israel (Speedbrain) 10'04
7 Rodrigues (Honda) 10'57
8 Patrao (Suzuki) 11'27
9 Pain (Yamaha) 11'37
10 Viladoms (KTM) 11'57
11 van Niekerk (KTM) 12'15
12 Sanz (Gas Gas) 13'31
13 Gouet (Honda) 14'20
14 Salvatierra (Speedbrain) 14'40
15 Casteu (KTM) 15'48
16 Jakes (KTM) 16'24
17 Metge (Yamaha) 18'31
18 Pizzolito (Honda) 18'42
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21 Duclos (Sherco) 19'40
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40 Svitko (KTM) 34'37
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Quads : Casale took the lead
1 Casale (Yamaha)
2 Husseini (Honda) 7'40
3 Lafuente (Yamaha) 8'38
4 Sonik (Yamaha) 9'57
5 Gallegos (Honda) 15'28
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Cars : quiet stage, but big gap. Bad stage for polish Toyota boys.
1 Sainz (SMG)
2 Al-Attiyah (Mini) 4'45
3 Peterhansel (Mini) 7'26
4 Roma (Mini) 8'56
5 Holowczyc (Mini) 10'51
6 Villagra (Mini) 12'54
7 Vasyliev (mini) 15'58
8 de Villiers (Toyota) 16'25
9 Terranova (Mini) 18'00
10 ten Brinke (HRX) 20'04
11 van Loon (HRX) 25'27
12 Kaczmarski (Mini) 27'40
13 Lavieille (Haval) 27'47
14 Spinelli (Mitsubishi) 28'49
15 Rundle (Toyota) 33'01
16 Wevers (HRX) 36'45
17 Schott (Mini) 37'20
18 Alvarez (Ford) 37'23
19 Zhou (Mini) 39'00
20 Spataro (Renault) 39'17
21 Dabrowski (Toyota) 40'04
22 Garafulic (Mini) 40'23
23 Rakhimbayev (Toyota) 42'11
24 Lachaume (MD) 42'39
25 Malysz (Toyota) 42'49
26 Chabot (SMG) 45'54
27 Sireyjol (SMG) 47'24
28 Baldwin (Chevrolet) 50'52
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56 Gordon (Hummer) 1h59'52
Trucks : de Rooy still easy even if victory went to Kamaz.
1 Nikolaev (Kamaz)
2 Sotnikov (Kamaz) 3'45
3 de Rooy (Iveco) 4'34
4 Verluis (Man) 8'04
5 Loprais (Tatra) 10'23
6 Shibalov (Kamaz) 11'10
7 Karginov (Kamaz) 13'19
8 Stacey (Iveco) 15'10
9 van den Brink (Ginaf) 16'05
10 Kolomy (Tatra) 19'26
11 van Eerd (Daf) 20'27
12 Viazovich (maz) 20'53
13 Vratny (Liaz) 20'56
14 Kuipers (Man) 22'33
15 Adua (Iveco) 22'39
16 Vila (Iveco) 24'26
17 Aradavichus (Tatra) 25'29
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24 van Vliet (Man) 56'33
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Unfortunately we are back home again for a few days already.
Van Merksteijn had to retire on day 2 due to technical problems that couldn't be fixed.
Great trip though! Really nice atmosphere everywhere, Argentina is great! Lots of people along the roads, cheering and clapping for every car that passes. Nice cars in the top 40, nice weather. Too bad it only lasted for such a short period. Better luck next time.
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Some of the other photos I took in the days we were in Argentina!
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Would you be able to shed some light on the difference between Overdrive and Imperial Toyotas? Other than engines being used ;) Is Belgian Hilux based on South African? Do they share data, etc.?Quote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
There have been a few articles on the net over the years about the Overdrive/ Hallspeed Hilux 'cars' so some parts of the story are known.
The OverDrive website says they use AP brakes and the Red Bull video of the Austrian skier showed his Hilux had PowerBrake from South Africa.
http://www.powerbrake.co.za/
http://www.imperialtoyota.co.za/news/ne ... challenger
The current Imperial/ Hallspeed Hilux has an independent rear end, air conditioning, etc.
Kamaz looking at robotized gearboxes - where would the source be?
So, in cars the expected "switch" is about to happen. The only remaining intrigue is who will grab the third place on the podium - Villiers, Attiyah, Terranova?
In the trucks, there are 3 assistance ones in the overall top 8 = Total disgrace for the rest - Mans, Tatras etc.
ATV's have good fight, but are always out of the focus.
I'm not really technical, but its quite a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Imperial are 5 cm wider from the front, 5 cm longer. Much more advanced than the Overdrive cars. More like a WRC, better sitting position of the driver etc. Overdrive have air conditioning too.
Don't know if they share data, but its a close cooperation thats for sure. They share the same servicespot and we got a book with the total planning of the rally from Overdrive and it was combined with Hallspeed.
From what i understand the Overdrive team are licenced to build cars for Hallspeed in Europe. The Hallspeed cars are most likely just a new evolution of what the Overdrive guys are using. If i remember correctly Giniel de Villiers is using the most recent evolution and Leeroy Poulter's car is a slightly older model with some changes. Thomas Rundle is driving Giniel's car from last years Dakar.
That being said on my last visit to Hallspeed they were doing some rebuilds for overseas customers, so my theory may be flawed.
Sainz in troubles and Karginov on charge!