Same Sex Marriage

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

You're wrong. Some of our fellow forumers (pretend to) know, the others aren't interested

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I don't pretend to know. I'm not interested, because it doesn't have the slightest bearing on how I live my life.

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Originally Posted by Bezza

Speaking of juvenile, you keep repeating "why do you care?" - which is, ironically, coming across quite childish.

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I wouldn't have to keep asking if you answered the question, because I genuinely don't understand the basis for your worry about same-sex marriage.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

An utterly specious and intellectually bankrupt argument, unsurprisingly.

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Intellectually bankrupt argument? One clearly that you cannot answer you mean.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I don't pretend to know. I'm not interested, because it doesn't have the slightest bearing on how I live my life.

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Why so interested in the subject then? An opportunity to pretend to be superior?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I don't pretend to know. I'm not interested, because it doesn't have the slightest bearing on how I live my life.

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Good for you. A modern ( better said recent ) man without an existential anxiety. I envy you.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Its a difficult one that because I have never met a gay person who has said given the choice, that they wouldn't be heterosexual. I think we have to accept that normal comes in many forms. There are certainly millions of gay people world wide so that gives the indication that homosexuality is a fairly common thing. I once saw a claim that there are more gay people on this planet than there are people with ginger/red hair. It just goes to show how a human being doesn't get a lot of choice in the matter and we should accept that not everyone is like us.

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We've lost sight of the original post - same sex marriage.

Churches are unwilling to allow it as, to do so, they would be going against the fundamental teachings.

Should the bible be changed?

Besides, if the church is so out of touch, why would anyone want to get married there?

The fact that divorces are now so common, that the whole point of marriage, has been lost somewhere.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I think we have to accept that normal comes in many forms. There are certainly millions of gay people world wide so that gives the indication that homosexuality is a fairly common thing.

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That's not a reason.
There are many common things and some of them are still unacceptable.
I can give some examples but I risk to be ( again! ) misunderstood.

To set the record straight before I go: I have no problem with homosexuals but I can't see why they should marry.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Intellectually bankrupt argument? One clearly that you cannot answer you mean.

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Rubbish. I answered it above by saying that there will be no sudden jump in the number of same-sex couples if same-sex marriage is legalised, since people are what they are, and can't help their sexuality. It's not a lifestyle choice.

Are you seriously saying that same-sex marriage should not be legalised because you believe it would lead to a jump in the number of same-sex couples, thus reducing childbirth? Do you think that this concern should override the small matters of love and personal choice?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Why so interested in the subject then? An opportunity to pretend to be superior?

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Because I am gay, and I am insulted by the way in which people such as yourself would seek to deny me the same rights as everyone else with regard to marriage, merely on the grounds of what my sexuality happens to be.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Rubbish. I answered it above by saying that there will be no sudden jump in the number of same-sex couples if same-sex marriage is legalised, since people are what they are, and can't help their sexuality. It's not a lifestyle choice.

Are you seriously saying that same-sex marriage should not be legalised because you believe it would lead to a jump in the number of same-sex couples, thus reducing childbirth? Do you think that this concern should override the small matters of love and personal choice?

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Legalised or not, same sex couples will still exist. What exactly is the pre-occupation if civil ceremonies are available?

If a same sex couple cannot naturally have children, what makes it acceptable to allow same sex couples to adopt?