Oh well... he also lost one for them the previous year so lets call them even :p
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Oh well... he also lost one for them the previous year so lets call them even :p
Where did I say Mclaren sabotaged him? Anybody who seriously believes sabotaging theories in Formula 1 is a grade A idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
2011 was clearly an off year for Lewis, but otherwise he's been a solid contender, even getting two victories in a crapola of a car in 2009.
Or are you saying Mclaren have been making championship winning cars all these years and he's not delivering? Well, he's clearly doing much better than Button, so that must mean Button is a God-awful driver.
Couldn't agree more. There have been weekends where he has steamrolled the competition and Button has struggled to even get into top 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Even though Lewis may struggle with Mercedes, but looking at how Mclaren's mistakes have cost him points, I can understand his decision to leave the team.
^ This.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Another point I want to add is that looking at this year's form, both Perez and Button are awful qualifiers, depending more on their race pace. Mclaren are gonna miss Lewis' raw pace to put the car higher up on the grid. There are always chances of more tangling and crashes happening in the midfield.
Oh, you mean his rookie year in 2007? The one where he beat a two-time world champion and almost won the championship in his first year in Formula 1? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
Queue in Mclaren sabotaging Alonso theories. Yep, pay him millions, spend millions setting up the car, and then put sand in his fuel pump. Makes perfect sense.
I'm willing to bet Button is going to make Perez look very average next year...Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
He just might. It's gonna be interesting to see. The Mclaren sure seems to be a harder car on tires compared to the Sauber. Judging by this year's form of both Perez and Button, if Mclaren fail to deliver a spectacular car, they could very well struggle with two very inconsistent drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
Yep, unfortunately there are idiots out there who actually believe that McLaren were sabotaging Alonso in 2007. Fact is that Alonso just wasn't good enough to beat the rookie. Hamilton is a great driver and he has shown that on many an occasion. I do believe that Alonso is a better driver now than in 2007, I'm sure Hamilton is as well, and even though Alonso has proven his worth in Ferrari, I'm still skeptical, despite his now seemingly more mature demeanor, about his on his ability to put up with a teammate like Hamilton in 2007 should someone really put it up to him like that again. It's probably the only thing Alonso has left to prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Actually I think labelling Jenson as inconsistent is unfair. His pace definitely fluctuates but he has an unerring 'get you home' capability to score points wherever he starts from. Also I think he has changed since the tail end of 2009 when I think he found it difficult to not buckle under the pressure of chasing his first WDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
However I think next season the thing everyone will be thinking will be "what could Lewis have done in that car?".
I wouldn't label him as inconsistent, I think his form is pretty stable. I just think that his form isn't never good enough to drive around issues he has with the car. So yeah, he is consistent form wise, but because he can't raise his game when faced with an unstable car, where he ends up at the end of the weekend can fluctuate massively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
I'd say 2010 and 2011 were much better years for Jenson consistency wise. 2012 has just been a one sided ass whooping by Lewis unfortunately (in qualifying more so). The way Button has struggled with his car's setup this year has been puzzling to many, including me, because judging from his form in 2011, I thought he would be consistently somewhere around Lewis (if not ahead) this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
That is inevitable every time a top tier driver leaves a team. Just a couple of weeks ago I saw the has-been JV commenting on how Kimi and Romain are underwhelming in the Lotus, and that someone like Alonso or Lewis would have won the championship in that car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec