Driver and Donkey of the British GP

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Originally Posted by kfzmeister

This clarification is in direct relation to the two aggressive moves Rosberg made in Bahrain against Ham and Zo....

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I stand corrected :dork:

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The ruling comes after several controversial incidents this year in which drivers have vigorously defended their positions and in some cases forced challenging rivals off the circuit.

One of the most publicised of these cases came at the Bahrain Grand Prix when Nico Rosberg of Mercedes robustly defended his position from attacks, or attempts to pass, by Lewis Hamilton in a McLaren and then Fernando Alonso of Ferrari.

Both challenging drivers felt aggrieved at the way in which Rosberg moved his car to defend his position, forcing them to run wide and in Hamilton's case off the circuit completely.

The race stewards investigated the incidents at the time and took no action because it was said that no "significant part" of either Hamilton or Alonso's cars was alongside Rosberg at the time./
The clarification means also that Rosberg can rest easy because in both cases in Bahrain he defended his position without breaking the rules.

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Short version of the above. Fred and Lewis did some crying that Nico didn't just move over for them. :D

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Originally Posted by henners88

In hindsight both drivers should have pulled to the side of the track and thought long and hard about how they were going to take the corner. Sod trying to do it at 130mph side by side and arcing each other, take their time and consider all the outcomes. :p

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The marshalls should be on hand to make a pot of tea - maybe some scones, clotted cream and jam as well? ;)

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Originally Posted by henners88

In hindsight both drivers should have pulled to the side of the track and thought long and hard about how they were going to take the corner. Sod trying to do it at 130mph side by side and arcing each other, take their time and consider all the outcomes. :p

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Clearly some people here have never even sat into a kart not to mind a proper racing car. Another more quality driver like Alonso or Hammy would not have done this. You can't be making allowances for other drivers erratic behavior in F1. You see a gap you must go for it. You have to assume that since they are in F1 they are of a certain quality. Maldonado, unfortunately, bought his way into F1 and has the look of a driver that is quite far from the finished product. He's moderately talented but combining this with him having no brain is just a recipe for disaster. I said after Monaco last year and his coming together with Hamilton that it wouldn't be the last of these kind of accidents that he we see involving Pastor and I was correct. I'm sure there will be more to come as well.

Sergio went to overtake legitimately. Pastor, unintentionally, lost the car and ran into him. Pastors fault. Everything else - smoke and mirrors.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

You can't be making allowances for other drivers erratic behavior in F1. You see a gap you must go for it. You have to assume that since they are in F1 they are of a certain quality. Maldonado, unfortunately, bought his way into F1 and has the look of a driver that is quite far from the finished product. He's moderately talented but combining this with him having no brain is just a recipe for disaster.

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So F1 drivers must assume that other drivers are good enough even when they know they're not?

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Pastor, unintentionally, lost the car and ran into him.

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Yeah, i can see what you're saying. After all, his move on Hamilton at Spa, on Perez in Monaco and his move on Hamilton in Valencia all were unintentional as well. He sure makes his own bed!

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Short version of the above. Fred and Lewis did some crying that Nico didn't just move over for them. :D

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I thought it was pretty reckless. I mean Hamilton has been criticized for that sort of driving. Alonso, ....well he just doesn't drive like that.

In my view, this last Maldonado vs Perez crash was another racing incident. Both drivers chose to drive aggressively, but without breaking the rules IMHO. There was plenty of space for both cars. Then Maldonado lost his car. The fact the Maldonado lost the car in the turn was what caused the contact. I don't think either driver should have been punished. Was it smart for Maldonado to push his car to the limits this way? Probably no. This was an unsound judgement call. I think he will learn with more experience to avoid such calls, or perish. Running on fresher tires he still had a good chance to catch up with Perez, if he let Perez overtake at first.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

So F1 drivers must assume that other drivers are good enough even when they know they're not?

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"If You No Longer Go For A Gap, You Are No Longer A Racing Driver" - Ayrton Senna!

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

"If You No Longer Go For A Gap, You Are No Longer A Racing Driver" - Ayrton Senna!

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Senna answered this to Stewart, as he tried to defend his multiple clashes with Alain Prost. Senna was a great driver, but sometimes he did unforgivable things and came with pseudo-wise crap like this.