Meanwhile in Vopland

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Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini

One of the conditions for getting a conviction of 2nd degree murder in the great state of Florida is:
Murder with a Depraved Mind.

This is not going to be an easy condition to prove. We don't know the particulars of this entire event. My gut feeling is that they will get a conviction or settle with a plea of manslaughter, with a sentence at or near the max, but this is speculation of course.

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We are looking at a case of another over-reaching prosecutor like the Casey Anthony Trial.

I have no confidence in the prosecutor after listening to her at the press conference when she said:
""We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts on any given case as well as the laws of the state of Florida,"

Does anybody seriously believe her?

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Originally Posted by Starter

Gotta love the left. Fair and equal justice for all. Unless it's the folks from the other side. Then we'll just railroad them in the court of public opinion.

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That's a bit of a stretch since I believe the original issue was local prosecutors were trying to dismiss the entire case despite recommendations from the original investigators. Without the public outcry none of the investigation we've seen in the past few months would have happened.

We will have to wait and hear the evidence. However if Zimmerman was the one attacked then this is nothing more than a racial railroad job. You should not go around attacking anyone and if you do - getting your ass shot is a good thing. Several white people have now been beaten severely and some blacks shot dead. There are call for a race war by the black panthers. That at some point in our future seems likely. I don't think you Euros fully comphrend the danger of walking down the wrong street in America. It is sad and it will only get worse. When you are allowed to stand up and proclaim it is time for a race war and put a bounty on ones life then you are much worse than Zimmerman could ever be.

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Originally Posted by Starter

It may be that the local prosecutors did not believe there was enough evidence to bring charges. We don't know either way. Again, a rush to judgement.

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We do know what the investigators recommended and the local prosecutor decided to release him on the same day with no restrictions. That's the rush to judgement and that's what caused the furor in the first place. Now we'll have an actual trial that corrects the initial rush to judgement.

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Originally Posted by Starter

I do. Unless she proves otherwise.

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You actually believe she didn't succumb to any pressure at all?

If this case hadn't been blasted all over the world in the media that was manipulated by professional race card dispensers do you really think they would be prosecuting him?

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Originally Posted by Starter

Investigators are not the ones who have to actually win a case in court. It is the prosecutor's job to do that. It is irresponsible of them to procede with a case they do not think they can win (and I'm not saying that is the case here, we just don't know). First, it's a waste of taxpayer money; Second, it's a waste of the court's time; Third, it's government abuse of power to prosecute someone you are sure you can't convict, with the resulting costs to defend oneself and, probably, jail time in the interim.

Everyone was crying because there wasn't an immediate arrest. There are also many, many situations where charges are not filed until much later when most of the evidence is in. Especially if there is some question as to what actually happened as here.

Let's be real about this. Without the racial overtones, no one would give a rat's patoot about this situation and it certainly wouldn't have lasted more than a day in the media, if it showed anywhere outside of Florida at all.

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Many people seem to forget the essence of "Innocent until Proven Guilty"

In most cases they can hold you for up to 24 hours after that they either have to charge you or let you go.

In this case they had nothing to charge him with so they let him go. Now after all these weeks of Media Race Baiting and Professional Race Card holders suddenly the Prosecutor believes there is enough to charge him with 2nd Degree Murder.

Is there some new evidence that brought on the charges? I really doubt it. We all know why he was charged.

wrong thread :confused:

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

...In most cases they can hold you for up to 24 hours after that they either have to charge you or let you go.

In this case they had nothing to charge him with so they let him go. ....

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Therein is a key distinction between the laws in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Under Canada’s criminal code, for example, merely the discharge of a firearm, whether someone is injured or not, is a criminal offense and subject to immediate arrest. The accused remains in custody during the investigation and is released only if no formal charges are filed.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

We have a name for people who rely solely on the police for protection.........Victims.

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Now you also have a name for those who don't..........Murderers.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Canadian hunters and target shooters beware - you're going to be doing time.

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Indeed! No hunting allowed in Canada!
Thousands of hunters who trudge into the wilderness every fall who shoot game with rifles are in breach of the law. The police lie in ambush waiting to pounce on the illegal hunters, hauling them off to the courthouse, shackled, by the dozen, in the back of truck. Our courts are so congested with cases of these illegal hunters that there is no time for other trials. Our prisons are packed to the rafters with grizzly bearded man in plaid shirts and ball caps, lamenting on their backwoods misdeeds.