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Y'awl boys are cracking me up :laugh:
Indeed, the more I learn about different religions the more odd religious beliefs appear to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Yes I think there is. And his name is
Lionel Messi
Yes there is,his name? Who else but Hef. Forget about virgins he sleeps with twins.
I don't agree. A religious education simply means that you've studied the doctrine of a particular religion. All that will allow you to do is consider the merits of one religion against another. As somebody pointed out earlier, there is a difference between religion and faith. To believe in god(s) you have to have faith. You don't have to follow a religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Personally, I don't believe in god(s) so I guess that makes me an atheist. The reason I don't believe in god(s) has nothing to do with religion but is rather a reflection of the fact that I simply don't need faith in a god to live my life.
Atheism in America: Why won
It is interesting reading this thread as an American, because while I can certainly understand agnosticism, atheism seems completely foreign to me and unnatural. Here's an interesting quote from the article linked:
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A Gallup poll last year showed that, while 9 per cent of Americans would not vote for a Jewish presidential candidate, 22 per cent wouldn’t support a Mormon and 32 per cent would not vote for a gay or lesbian candidate, 49 per cent would refuse to back an atheist for president.
The difference between Europe and America is certainly interesting when it comes to religiousness in politics. As the article implies, an atheist can pretty much forget about being President in the US. Or he has to lie..Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
Not so in many European countries.
I know that in Estonia -- as perhaps an extreme example, but nevertheless -- if a presidential candidate started talking about God and faith, he/she would be seen by most as some sort of dangerous nutter. Even at Christmas when politicians make a point of being seen in church, it comes across as somehow unnatural.
I must admit, when I see politicians going to church in the UK, it makes me uneasy.
I want my politicians to make decision based on reason, facts and logic, not some 'belief'. That scares me.
I agree completely. Look at how Blair only converted to Catholicism after he ceased to be Prime Minister, and attempted always to deflect questions about his faith. When he was asked by Jeremy Paxman whether he and George W. Bush had prayed together, all he could do was refuse to answer what he said was a stupid question, or words to that effect. Not being stupid, he knew that a lot of people, right across the political spectrum, would consider him a religious nutter if he discussed his faith publicly. Some may consider this sad; I see it as entirely sensible. It was one matter on which he was entirely right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
You're right Ben. In America, you're weird and unelectable if you're not religious. In the UK, the opposite is true.