That is indeed a very Long archive search concerning Loebs attitude....
Next time try and use facts not LIES...
bye bye...
As for Ogier any finnish/brittish cry baby news about Ogier moving teams ???
LOL
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That is indeed a very Long archive search concerning Loebs attitude....
Next time try and use facts not LIES...
bye bye...
As for Ogier any finnish/brittish cry baby news about Ogier moving teams ???
LOL
What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
My guess, too much alcohol. But most likely he is referring to the user who claimed that Citroen have used team orders in favor of Loeb a lot and Loeb hasn't thanked his team mates enough for helping him, or sth like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
I thought NOT was talking about this...The dodgy British and Finnish media :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
:D Maybe so ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Theres no doubting Loebs success, he IS a fantastic driver, you dont win 8 world titles(that much is set in stone IMO) without having massive amounts of skill. But he IS also citroens number 1 driver, and always has team orders on his side, and also, you dont win that many world titles without having A LOT of luck on your side aswel.
Now that the drivers title has been pretty much won already, Ogier I think is willing to bow down to team orders. But will he be as willing next year to obey team orders, when Loeb is number 1 from the start again?
IMO as long as Loeb stays at citroen, Ogier will never win a championship. And he diddn't start rallying to play second fiddle.
On the other hand, Ford may give him a chance to beat Loeb, and if this season is anything to go by, he's probably the only driver out there(currently) who can beat Loeb. If Citroen wont let him win, why should he stay?
I agree with the above. I don't think that any other driver will win as many rallies of titles as Loeb either.
DH.be - Duval : “Plus heureux aujourd’hui”Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Duval said: Que vous inspirent les récentes tensions entre Loeb et Ogier ?
“Ogier a commis la même erreur que moi. Il devrait se casser très vite. Citroën m’a détruit. Ils ont fait pareil ensuite avec Sordo. Il n’y en a que pour Loeb. Jamais plus je ne retournerais là-bas. J’aurais dû rester chez Ford...”
Sebastien Ogier says he will drive to support Citroen team in France - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
Ogier said: "I'm at the team's service to help it win more titles," (I think Loeb's service now).
If Ogier were to move to Ford does anyone thing that he could beat Loeb with the Fiesta? I can't decide if it's the Fiesta or the drivers at Ford which are the problem. I'm a real fan of Latvala so would like to believe it's the car!
We won't know until Ogier really drives Fiesta ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by whereschris
Good point. I hope it happens - it will certainly make make things interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
In hirvonens case it is definately the driver not the car
But in Ogier Ford would have a proper driver to pair with Latvala........what a team that would be
But it all depends of Ford will put the nesessary money in to get ogier?
Ford either wants to win or continue to be second?