Dismantling an empire

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Originally Posted by Eki

No, but you can sometimes show mercy. You'd probably say that also shooting an enemy pilot who has escaped his shot down plane with a parachute. He could always come back with a new plane.


Very unlikely in this case.


So it was better to destroy the loot altogether than to let the Iraqis have it?

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Such is war. Everyone would look rather foolish if the troops they let escape ended up killing them.

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Originally Posted by Eki

So is executing surrendered prisoners, it's just forbidden in the Geneva Convention, which is a bitch.

There was no need to kill fleeing Iraqis on their way from Kuwait to Iraq, because the purpose of the war was just that, to get the Iraqis out of Kuwait and that was exactly what they were doing.

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There is no analogy, so you are babbling obtuse foolishness.

As I said you are sounding more and more like a troll.

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Originally Posted by Eki

I think it was since the collapse of the Soviet Union. While the Soviet Union was alive and kicking, it was good that the US was it's counterbalance. But now that the Soviet Union is dead and gone, it's bad that the US now roams freely around the world without a counterbalance and resistance.

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As that is your opinion and nothing more, it is odd that you would make such a blatant biased, bordering of spiteful hate, statement without anything to back up your rhetoric.

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

General Colin Powell did recognize it was getting to be too much of a slaughter and advised then Pres., Bush Sr., that a cease-fire was in order, which shortly took place thereafter. Just be glad that someone like Westmoreland wasn’t in command at the time.

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Tell that to the survivors of the people murdered by Saddam after Powell's asinine decision did not totally finish the task at hand.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

As that is your opinion and nothing more, it is odd that you would make such a blatant biased, bordering of spiteful hate, statement without anything to back up your rhetoric.

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It is his opinion, but it is based in the of course ludricious notion that both superpowers were evil.

Sane and rational people realize that the US for all its "faults" was not the same at all as the USSR..and survives as a tribute to civilized democracies over socialist dictatorships...but to Eki, and his moral equivalance, this cannot be.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Country by GDP Rank ($ Amt.) / Military Spending $ Amt / % of Global Milit. Spending

#1 United States ($14.430 Trillion) / $607 Billion / 41.5%
#2 Japan ($5.108 Trillion) / 46.3 Billion / 3.2%
#3 People's Republic of China ($4.814 Trillion) / $84.9 Billion / 5.8%
#4 Germany ($3.273 Trillion) / $46.8 Billion / 3.2%
#5 France ($2.666 Trillion) / $65.7 Billion / 4.5%
#6 United Kingdom ($2.198 Trillion) / $65.3 Billion / 4.5%
#7 Italy ($2.090 Trillion) / $40.6 Billion / 2.8%
#8 Brazil ($1.499 Trillion) / $23.3 Billion / 1.6%
#9 Spain ($1.466 Trillion) / $19.2 Billion / 1.3%
#10 Canada ($1.335 Trillion) / $19.3 Billion / 1.3%
#11 Russia ($1.232 Trillion) / $58.6 Billion / 4.0%

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LOL. LFMAO. I'm really shocked, disgusted and amused. And some people wonder why the rest of the world is not so happy about them.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

It is his opinion, but it is based in the of course ludricious notion that both superpowers were evil.

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Neither one was evil in their own eyes and their allies' eyes. Both were evil in the eyes of their enemies and opposition.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Tell that to the survivors of the people murdered by Saddam after Powell's asinine decision did not totally finish the task at hand.

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So, Saddam didn't have a chance to kill them because Americans killed them first. Do you think those Iraqis on the Highway of Death and their relatives were happier because they were killed by Americans and not by Saddam?

[quote="Eki"]So, Saddam didn't have a chance to kill them because Americans killed them first. Do you think those Iraqis on the Highway of Death and their relatives were happier because they were killed by Americans and not by Saddam?[/QUOTE

That statement makes no sense, what are taking about.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Tell that to the survivors of the people murdered by Saddam after Powell's asinine decision did not totally finish the task at hand.

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Powell may be criticized for his ‘asinine’ decision, but he’s not entirely accountable for the Kurds, Shiites and other Iraqis who fell victim to Saddam’s post Desert Storm operations. Bush Sr., or shall I say his administration – made the final decision – after Powell’s assessment, or suggestion of a ‘cease-fire’.

I must say that I find that the Bush Admin., as well as UN and/or other top military commanders of the additional coalition forces made the serious error by coming to the final decision to leaving Saddam not only alive, but in power as well. Yes, there would have been a civil war then, just as we have observed after Saddam’s regime was toppled. Nevertheless it was inadvisable to expect that murderer to comply with the No-Fly-Zone, much less the UN inspections for WMD. Long story short, we should have got the job done then, not later.

Additionally, it shouldn’t be forgotten that the Bush Admin., didn’t help in the matters by encouraging the Iraqi people to rebel against such a totalitarian government, without mentioning that they themselves would be on their own.

Which is if you ask me, is all the more reason for other nations and/or peoples of the world not to trust the US on just about any matter. Same of course could be mentioned about the UN, by merely reflecting on Rwanda, but that’s another matter, of course…

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Originally Posted by F1boat

... And some people wonder why the rest of the world is not so happy about them.

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Well like Jag said earlier, some of us over here are fat-n-happy. Hate to say it, but it’s true. I had my head stuck in the sand for so many years because of the politics of this country. Democrat or Republican, it makes no difference. Neither one of them are any damn good.

So would a third party do the trick? Like an Independent? I don’t know. But I like how the Brits have it – putting a third dog into the pen, fighting for scraps (votes). Couldn’t make it any worse… I hope.