Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

With all due respect.....That is the dumbest thing I have read here since you posted that video blaming 9/11 on the US government...

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I think he did however make a good point with:

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Granting the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama provides legitimacy to the illegal practices of war, to the military occupation of foreign lands, to the relentless killings of civilians in the name of "democracy".

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And....

Yes, I agree with going after Saddam & Bin Laden]The rest of your post is, typically, bonkers right-wing nut-job nonsense for the most part, but... [/QUOTE] :laugh: :up: Please, don't restrict your words. Tell us how you really feel.

Not laughing at the agitation involved, just your expression; reminds me of myself describing non-conformists (such as the young & healthy ones who refuse to get a job).

Anyways back to topic... Yeah I agree about Marshal with what you mentioned already.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The Dali Lama? Courageous?

Ha. All he does is fly around in a private jet meeting with celebrities while his people suffer and die.

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Tony..what is he supposed to do? Go back to China and get gunned down while his supporters get a bill for the bullet? You really are out on the limb on this one. The Dalai Lama is the poster boy for peaceful resistance, which the last time I looked was what the Left is all gung ho for. IN his case, it is the right path since getting killed and martyred by the butchers of Beijjing would be a waste. He is the guy reminding the world who the exactly the Chinese REALLY are.....

I thought you were a bit smarter than that Tony.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'm surprised you haven't suggested that Silvio Berlusconi is awarded it, given your admiration for him.

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I said Silvio was a slimeball at least 2 times Ben. I just demanded you prove in some form your accuasations of his criminal deeds, or at least show me where someone has a story in the press where there is enough smoke to see the fire. I also pointed out part of the reason people hate him so much is because Italy despite his creepy personality is a better country now than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Maybe the guy is doing something right, albeit being a right winger you hate his guts on principle since they are all just crooks right?

Obama was given this prize for things he hasn't done, which is just as wrong as accusing and convicting someone of misdeeds not proven. Both are wrong....but you only see it as intentions being all that is required...

Thought crime I believe Orwell called it....

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Obama was given this prize for things he hasn't done, which is just as wrong as accusing and convicting someone of misdeeds not proven.

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I'm sorry, but that's pompous nonsense based once again on your own political bias.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'm sorry, but that's pompous nonsense based once again on your own political bias.

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Well then, is it not possible that there's a hidden (European) agenda for Obama to receiving the prize ? Not necessarily any particular obvious interests at the moment (that we know of anyways), but for later perhaps?

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Obama was given this prize for things he hasn't done, which is just as wrong as accusing and convicting someone of misdeeds not proven. Both are wrong....but you only see it as intentions being all that is required...

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Do you also think that shortened prison sentences because of good behaviour are wrong? They are rewarded for not doing anything bad during their sentences.

What in Heaven's name are you talking about?

Prisoners are released early due to good behavior only on the conditions that they comply with what is demanded of them; obey all commands and rules. Which is what they’re suppose to do anyways.

Mark In Oshawa’s point was about how the hollowed foundations of an award was prematurely presented to someone who has yet to accomplish much, as compared to those who have spent more time and dedication to their respective causes.

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

What in Heaven's name are you talking about?

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Obama hasn't invaded anyone (yet), unlike his predecessor. That's good behaviour.

Give him time. He is American.

Translation: This country's corporate powers that run this country, are not inclined to give up their majestic (profitable) imperialism for the sake of any humanity.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Here's the real tragedy in all of this.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...929395,00.html

"Compare this to Greg Mortenson, nominated for the prize by some members of Congress, who the bookies gave 20-to-1 odds of winning. Son of a missionary, a former army Medic and mountaineer, he has made it his mission to build schools for girls in places where opium dealers and tribal warlords kill people for trying. His Central Asia Institute has built more than 130 schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan — a mission which has, along the way, inspired millions of people to view the protection and education of girls as a key to peace and prosperity and progress."...

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:up: Good example of what a Nobel should be intended for.





Here's another of worthy mention, Somaly Mam:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...894268,00.html

'....12-year-old Mam was sold into sexual slavery by a man who posed as her grandfather. She eventually ended up in a Phnom Penh brothel, beginning a decade of horrific rape and torture. She describes this period of her life simply: "I was dead. I had no affection for anyone."

Terror is the weapon of choice for those who hold women in sexual bondage. They depend on their victims' being frozen with fear. Traffickers hope that with enough pain and degradation, women will simply accept their fate as inescapable.

But Mam was able to escape. With the help of an aid worker from France, she fled Cambodia in 1993.

The fact that she escaped makes her unique, but what makes her truly extraordinary is that she went back. While, understandably, most people would spend the rest of their lives quietly recovering from their wounds, Mam decided to confront the system that continues to victimize Cambodian girls.

In 1996, Mam created a nonprofit organization called AFESIP (Agir pour les Femmes en Situation Précaire, or Acting for Women in Distressing Circumstances) that works with local law enforcement to raid brothels and reintegrate the trafficked women into society. It is estimated that between 1.2 million and 2 million people are currently being held as sex slaves around the world. Mam, now 38 or 39 (she does not know her birthday), has established a model for addressing this issue and has already helped more than 4,000 women escape the brothels.
She has paid a terrible personal price for doing so, enduring death threats and assaults. In an effort to deter her work, brothel owners even kidnapped, drugged and raped Mam's then 14-year-old daughter in 2006.

Most people would have walked away. Mam continues to fight back so that others can be spared the pain she once suffered.'