Singapore 2008: Briatore and Symmonds resign

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4th September 2009, 01:13
Somebody

Thing is though, you can't say that if the Renaults had been banned, everything else would have gone exactly the same way. In Brazil, in particular, Hamilton (knowing he only needed fifth) went VERY conservative on the strategy, and it nearly cost him dear. If he'd gone in tied with Massa, or even behind him, you can bet he'd have been more aggressive from the start of the weekend. And who can say what would have happened if he'd done that - anything from a glorious win to an ignominious crash could have resulted.
4th September 2009, 10:32
christophulus

FIA "widens investigation"

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The Renault Formula One team's problems were compounded yesterday when it emerged that the FIA could investigate more than just the allegations that Nelson Piquet Jnr was instructed to crash his car in the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix to help team-mate Fernando Alonso to win.

A source within the FIA said: "There were interviews going on all weekend at Spa-Francorchamps, and other issues above and beyond Singapore are also to be looked at." Technical chief Pat Symonds and Alonso were among senior Renault figures interviewed more than once by FIA representatives in Belgium.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/m...n-1780191.html

Now that sounds fairly serious. What else have Renault been up to exactly? Apparently it's not just the crash that's being investigated:

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Nelson Piquet Jr is believed to have given a statement concerning his version of events to the FIA and its legal representatives some time ago.

Based on that information the three Belgian GP stewards – Sweden’s Lars Osterlind, Greece’s Vassilis Despotopoulos and local representative Yves Bacquelaine – were subsequently called upon to interview key members of the Renault team at Spa last Thursday, accompanied by the FIA’s professional legal support.

The high level of secrecy surrounding the matter apparently meant that the Renault staff concerned, including engineering boss Pat Symonds and Fernando Alonso, had little or no warning about what to expect.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...d-come-friday/

That seems to suggest this whole issue has been brewing for a while. WMSC meeting could be 21st September.
4th September 2009, 10:53
ioan

Well well, looks like Flav might be in serious trouble again.
4th September 2009, 11:02
I am evil Homer

TBH they seemed to get away with all those discs of Mac data without any real problems.....maybe Flav's teflon days are coming to an end!!
4th September 2009, 11:20
SGWilko

You would have to say that something is most definately afoot here. Poor Alonso, he is going to be branded a driver that courts contoversy.

Let us hope that he is not involved in any way shape or form...
4th September 2009, 11:42
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by henners88

I hope Alonso is not involved in any of this as his reputation would be in tatters. Renault on the other hand got away scot free when they were caught with Mclaren data and now maybe they have been caught cheating again. I wonder if this is worth more than a $50m fine?

Lets get ONE thing straight here when talking fines and precedents. The ONLY reason McLaren were fined £60m or whatever it actually was, is because Max knew they could afford it.

We also know that Max is impartial, and hates Bondage.

He don't like Flav the Chav, nether!!! :laugh:
4th September 2009, 15:19
Knock-on

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Originally Posted by henners88

I hope Alonso is not involved in any of this as his reputation would be in tatters. Renault on the other hand got away scot free when they were caught with Mclaren data and now maybe they have been caught cheating again. I wonder if this is worth more than a $50m fine?

When I saw that this was being opened out past the Crashgate issue, McLaren data was the first thing that jumped into my mind.

Let's not forget that had the FIA done any more than a cursory "were you being naughty?" investigation then Renault would have been deeper in the than McLaren. There was considerable evidence that data was incorporated into the car and had they asked to see the Backup tapes rather than live systems, then Renault would have been fooked.

Perhaps Flav should have remembered Max turning a blind eye before doing an et tu Brutus.

Making the mistake that Max is down and out is not a clever move!!
4th September 2009, 15:37
bartlock

Briatore is a Mad man :p , but i don't think that he asked Piquet to crash!

I hope too that Fernando is out of this crash gate.
4th September 2009, 18:02
christophulus

Renault summoned to World Motor Sport Council

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"Representatives of ING Renault F1 have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Monday, 21 September 2009," read a statement on the FIA website.

"The team representatives have been called to answer charges, including a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, that the team conspired with its driver, Nelson Piquet Jr, to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8239001.stm

If found guilty.. well the punishment will be massive. The FIA must've found some evidence of wrongdoing if it's got this far.
4th September 2009, 18:07
jimakos

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Originally Posted by bartlock

Briatore is a Mad man :p , but i don't think that he asked Piquet to crash!

I hope too that Fernando is out of this crash gate.

Can't agree more with your opinion!!
I like your thoughts about Flavio... :p

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