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I've been a fan of Ferrari since 1990 that's 19 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
If being a tifoso means praising them when they blunder than I'm not a tifoso.
As I said above, I can not praise mediocrity.
I'll post the mistakes at latest tonight.
Ferrari is not mediocre, they are a top team. They have their weaknesses and problems, but regardless of this they are still fighting for the titles. Ioan, would you be happier if Ferrari had the best strategy in every race, but lied 4th in the WCC?
If one day Ferrari struggles so badly that they can achieve only minor points on merit, then you will start missing current days, when they "may not have been perfect, but at least managed to win occasionally".
1.They have excellent drivers, the best one I would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
2.They have a superb car, maybe the best out there, so kudos to their engineers.
This is why they are in contention for the titles.
3.They also have a a mediocre race management team.
This is why they are 2nd in both championships while having the best drivers and the best car.
BMW are 3rd and are doing an excellent job.
Renault are 4th and are doing the best job possible given the circumstances.
STR are 6th and are clearly doing an excellent job too!
You don't see them throw race away with stupid strategy or stupid decisions, while they are pushing hard to catch up with the front runners.
Ferrari are now 2nd and doing a very amateurish job in the pits and on the pitwall.
I criticized them every time when they did things wrong, since the start of the season. And every time you came and said it's OK because they are still on top.
Now they aren't on top anymore after losing a 20+ points advantage!
You say it's OK cause they are still in the hunt for the title.
I'm curious what will you say after they lose both titles because of their poor management. :rolleyes:
Here's a list with what I saw like mistakes made by the Ferrari team this season:
1. Australian GP: reliability problem for Kimi in Quali
2. Australian GP: reliability problem for both drivers during the race
3. Australian GP: didn't pit Kimi during the SC period but a few laps after, major race management mistake.
4. Monaco GP: Kimi's tires not fitted 3' before the race start = drive through penalty, major race management mistake
5. Monaco GP: Switch Felipe to a one stop strategy with 40 laps to go with changeable weather conditions, major race management mistake.
6. Canadian GP: refuelling problem for Massa
7. British GP: pit stop problem during qualy for Felipe, as a result starts 9th
8. British GP: keep drivers on worn intermediates, major race management mistake
9. Valencia: Kimi's engine brakes (they knew this will happen cause it was using the same faulty part that was used in Massa's broken engine from Hungary still they kept the same engine)
10. Singapore GP: we all saw what happened a few days ago.
I'm pretty sure there were a few other ones that I'm missing at this moment.
Be cool that’s racing - they will come back in next race - things happen - my tip still is that both tittles go to Ferrari. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Because theres a difference in naming events from the last 6 month, and naming specific events from 8 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
If you honestly believe Ferrari only had 10 errors throughout 2000-04 (thats errors such as mechanical, pit stop, strategic etc) - then fair enough. I'll take that into account when reading your posts in future. I'll take into account you live in a world where you have a selective memory regarding facts to back up your own opinion.
Personal attacks, personal attacks, personal attacks, that's all I get from you. And than you say you're not picking on me. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PolePosition_1
Didn't you know that :D ioan is first a Ferrari/Schumi fan and then Ferrari/Massa fan and in case that Kimi win also Ferrari/Kimi fan - everything in Formula One is rotating around that.. therefore ioan has sometimes difficult remember Schumi’s mistakes and sometimes Schumi doesn't even "exist" before he game to Ferrari even if knows that Schumi game to Formula One all ready 1991 and won the WDC tittles all ready 1994 and 1995 with Benetton … and .. that it went actually 4 years at Ferrari before he won next time year 2000 - 9 ears after he started his F1 carrier ..Quote:
Originally Posted by PolePosition_1
Sometimes people can get a feeling that ioan doesn’t like Lewis – but if we compare him and Schumi first 1,5 - 2 years in F1 – you can’t even speak of them in same day and we shouldn’t even forget that Schumi was a first driver and his team mate was forced to let him win every time till the WDC title was Schumi’s – who can forget Austria 2001 (except ioan :) – Schumi was in BIG lead and despite of that - Rubens was told to let him pas.. (Schumi had 57 points and on second place had 27) .. and more – if we want to remember – but that’s racing ..
Ok - it's little stupid (maybe) but same time quite fun.. :D
(And sorry ioan if i'm speaking about Your F1 sympathies :)
Before all the Ferrari "fans" start jumping off the ship like it is sinking, we need to remember that even with MS, Todt, Brawn, etc. it took from 1996 to 2001 to win a WDC! Yes, a change in management will always shake up some things and cause problems, but to throw everybody out would be going back tothe Ferrari management of the team in the 1980's and early 1990's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Success goes in cycles. Look at the successful Williams teams from the 1990's and look where they are now.
If you're really a fan, you should stick with your team even when they screw up and are not winning.
I've been a Ferrari fan for 19 year now, and I won't jump of the sinking ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
I will however criticize them when criticism is due. What is so difficult to understand?! :rolleyes: