because you think that Raikkonen was at fault for a lose exhaust pipe?! The Lewy fanboy is talking there, not a F1 enthusiast.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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because you think that Raikkonen was at fault for a lose exhaust pipe?! The Lewy fanboy is talking there, not a F1 enthusiast.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Because if Vettel didn't make the mistake in Canada then Kovalainen would have passed him?!Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Any proof to support your view? I doubt it.
To make it clear, you can't penalize someone for something hypothetical, only for something that happened.
From crash.net, this is what Hamilton says on the incident:
“I went into the corner believing I was ahead on the outside, and couldn't turn-in on the guy otherwise we would have crashed, so I took a wider line. Then I lost the back on the marbles and went over the kerb and continued. I don't believe I overtook him by going over the kerb. I overtook him before that, as a result [of which] I was forced wide.”
By saying this, he has admitted to being worthy of a penalty - I don't think he understands the rules.
The rule is about "gaining an advantage by going off circuit" nothing to do with overtaking as such. By going across the "kerb" as he calls it - a better term is "run-off" because that area used to be grass, he MAINTAINED his position and COMPLETED his overtaking manoevure. This is why he was penalised.
He needs to come down to earth a bit. One big error and one small error haven't done it, what will it take?
He clearly doesn't understand a lot of things about racing in F1, however why isn't the team helping him understand better, instead of letting him destroy his slimmest chances for a point?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
:laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I have never said Raikkonen was at fault. The point I was making related to the effect a post-race fine on Ferrari would have had i.e. zero.
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Originally Posted by ioan
Quote from PitPass.Quote:
According to ITV, who supply coverage of F1 in Britain, the only footage of the Hamilton incident provided by the FOM TV host broadcast was an on-board shot from the Englishman's McLaren that apparently showed Hamilton past Vettel before he approached the Nurburgring chicane.
They claim that 'No exterior shot of the incident was offered', but cite the FIA reporting that 'its stewards, led by Max Mosley's number two Alan Donnelly, had access to the circuit's closed circuit TV cameras when making their decision'. The Times reports that the stewards adjudged Hamilton's offence to be "very clear".
It is unclear, however, why this footage has not been made available.
What should also be asked of Mr Donnelly is why a lump of metal that was hanging off a Ferrari for Lap afte Lap until it went flying off on a corner, (thankfully without hitting, injuring or killing anyone) was not removed under a Black and Orange.
What would have happened if it was a McLaren :laugh:
That was Lewis's perspective and I'm not sure he viewed a replay after he calmed down after the race before he decided to answer his critics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
Ron Dennis has a slightly different perspective when he talked to ITV:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=43085
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Dennis, however, argued that Hamilton had already completed the manoeuvre before he ran wide.
“I think he was past him,” he told Ted Kravitz after the race.
“I don’t think he got any track position.
“That’s my opinion; obviously it’s not an opinion held by other people, but I think he was past.
“There’s really nothing to be gained from saying anything else.”
Dennis revealed that he had argued his case to FIA race director Charlie Whiting – but Whiting was unconvinced.
“I just told him that it was our opinion that Lewis was past before he got squeezed off the circuit,” said Dennis.
“I don’t think he gained a position through being off the road, but obviously other people had a different opinion.”
Now all you really needed to say was:Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
'Lewis speaks out'
but no, much like Danica P., you had to keep going on with ...... yada yada yada Koolaid yada
If it was a McLaren, it would have fallen off and killed someone??Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
They should have fined them during the race?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Or you were hinting that they should have disqualified Kimi because the team didn't remove the lose exhaust pipe?!
It would have been a nice "an eye for an eye" in exchange for Lewy's (fully deserved) drive through penalty, isn't it?! :rolleyes:
Dream on. Your problem is that McLaren isn't the superior machine it was last season (mostly due to spying on the best team) and this shows that Hamilton is a driver like any other.