Waldo bugger off. I have you on my ignore list yet your crap still turns up in everyone's quotes!!
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Waldo bugger off. I have you on my ignore list yet your crap still turns up in everyone's quotes!!
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Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Noooo, please Waldo, donīt go away, I will revert anything Starter does, but please, donīt leave us, donīt condemn us to suffer our own ignorance and illogical reasoning, please, we will do whatever you want, but donīt go (specially taking all others that see what is going on).
Look Waldo, there are 2 things that donīt work in forums, one is using threats, threatening to leave the forum and taking others with you has never work for anyone in any forum, it is after all a forum, a place with no real importance, a place to hang around with friends and strangers that happen to share a hobby or a passion for something (in our case OW racing), threatening to leave a forum is like threatening not to go back to a pub, no one really cares.
The other thing that doesnīt work is telling everyone that you are going away just to get other members to tell you how much they like you and how much the forum needs you (specially if you announce your possible departure more than once, like in this case), it doesnīt work because forums are always in constant change, members come and go every month, every week, people who want to leave donīt announce it, they just do it.
Iīm not telling you to go away, Iīm not telling you to stay, that is your personal choice (unless you keep antagonizing members, in that case I will make the choice for you), what Iīm telling you is to spare us the drama and/or the threats.
Thank you I just forward this on. I teach an internet class. Got 5 people that want to start or moderate their own forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrambide
Thanks for another PoV on what not to do as a REFEREE. A moderator is a REFEREE not someone that goes a picks fights.
Again thank you as this is printing out. Hopefully this will educational and helpful to those tonight that want to become you.
The whole idea of unification was to advance the sport beyond its stagnant past. If the ICS wants to remain the cheesy open wheel alternative then don't make changes in the broadcast booth.Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
Why can't these myopic diehards take a lesson from SPEED's Formula One trio who do an outstanding job. They provide just the right balance for their audience demographic. Should ICS fans expect any less?
Homestead's announcers delivered a real snoozefest IMO. I've heard better commentary on SCCA, Mazda Pro and Atlantics.
You should get to know who you are picking a fight with WALDO.Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
When it comes to credibility between Starter and you, you'll see more support here for Starter. He doen't get off badgering all the posters like the other half of this debate.
Many series have gone through their share of personalities, and combinations thereof, in the announcers booth. When you're looking to increase audience and fan support, the chipmunk has to either go or get less air time. Does Peter Windsor have any relatives in the business?
Jon is a damn lot better than Goodyear and whoever the other guy is. They sound like they're reading the lottery results! Neither of the IRL's two commentators have that ability to add some excitement or enthusiasm that engages the audience like someone like Murray Walker, and it seems that they can't engage the audience with tech talk like Brundle or Crompton can, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Beekus has done more than CC. I thought you would have known that considering all the claims you throw around this forum Mr. Waldo.Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Do you really think Scott Goodyear was a top open wheel driver? I don't.
He should have done an HPI course. He puts his foot in his mouth way too much. Put him down in the paddock and pits for a while to hone his communication skills. Get him out of the booth, along with the other bonehead.
Migosh, guess folks who wanted to found something to keep the split going with. First of all, Goodyear and Co. likely had contracts signed to do the telecasts months before the "blendification." I suppose the first tech violation on an ex-CC team will draw comments about bad officiating...the first CC person of interest to have a credential problem of some kind at Indy.....etc., etc.
IMO, Bobby Unser has probably been the best color commentator on TV in open-wheel history....and it was genuinely entertaining when Sam Posey was his "foil."
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Originally Posted by indycool
IC, I think it is a total over reaction to suggest that the call for Jon to be a part of the broadcast has ANYTHING to do with the split. To turn your "I suppose the first..." comment back to you, I suppose every time anyone says anything to criticize the IRL/ICS, it will be seen as trying to keep the split going. That's just ridiculous. The split is over, done with, gone for me. But I am one of the vocal who thinks the current announcer pair STINK. I could care less if they have an iron clad contract, or not. That doesn't make their performance any better, nor would it prevent adding a third voice (Jon maybe????) to the booth. They did so last year with Rusty, didn't they?
And don't get me started about the Unser/Posey paring. Bobby was great, Sam was an IDIOT as an announcer when paired with Bobby. (I like Sam a lot, and enjoyed his commentary immensely in some of his other endeavors. But his bickering with Bobby, was for me way out of place.) Their banter was not entertaining, it was a HUGE distraction. My wife and I both used to yell at the TV, "Oh Sam, just shut the hell up". Actually, the expletive was a tad more "colorful".
Gary
Whoops, you may be right but it does seem that it's going that way, judging by who's posting what.
Okay, guess we disagree on the Unser-Posey pairing. I thought they were entertaining. And yes, Posey did a great job on other stuff, particularly the Iditarod up in Alaska.
And regardless of whoever's working with him, I've always thought Bob Jenkins was the best anchor announcer in racing.