[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Mr Wilson earns 17 years because Ford involved at wrc.Is it so hard for him to spend the profit from 10 cars out of 100 for 1 year only to hire proper drivers ?
Tired to hear about ''small budget'' for years,while at same time he rents- service- build -sell wrc/s2000/r2 cars all over the world for 17 years.
Anybody to know the annual turnover?

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Probably only Mr Wilson knows, if you can find out how many times he rented cars and multiply that by some 180000E plus Ford money then it migt be rough estimate.

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Originally Posted by Josti

A major blow, and of course ´the current economic climate´ is used as an excuse. Motorsport is a part of marketing, it has a huge following. For Ford, WRC is their destination. I don´t see what they would gain from a WTCC entry for example. If they do nothing, even worse.

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I think Ford knows what works, what gives a better ROI and where their money would be better spent than you do.

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Originally Posted by Josti

And to think they confirmed for the 2013 season. They lied...

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Budgets change. Ford Motorsport was 100% sure they were going to continue then the marketing Dept came up with a different idea.

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Originally Posted by wrc1600

Probably only Mr Wilson knows, if you can find out how many times he rented cars and multiply that by some 180000E plus Ford money then it migt be rough estimate.

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you have to calculate how many s2000/rrc fiestas have sold last years,and that 15-12-10-8-6 years old wrc cars(about 200 items all over the world) still buy engines-turbo-wishbones everything from M-sport.We are talking for more than 500 customers.....
But yeah.... budget from Ford is small...

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Originally Posted by darkstar

i dont think its that bad. m sport shurely will be there next season, maybe with less money but that´s it. who know´s, maybe they come back again for 2014 then.

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This is the time Ken block's Monster Energy should come to Ford's rescue.

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Originally Posted by Red bull

This is the time Ken block's Monster Energy should come to Ford's rescue.

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Says Red Bull :D

IF M-Sport manage to get a big sponsor, they might be better of that way instead of the little money Ford would have payed them.

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Originally Posted by Josti

A major blow, and of course ´the current economic climate´ is used as an excuse. Motorsport is a part of marketing, it has a huge following. For Ford, WRC is their destination. I don´t see what they would gain from a WTCC entry for example. If they do nothing, even worse.

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Why? Yes, Ford has a great motorsport heritage, but that's pretty much all it is — heritage. Its success in any form of motorsport has been slim to non-existent for some time now. And all but the most optimistic observer would surely agree that the benefits associated with WRC involvement have decreased substantially of late. The decision won't even look foolish if M-Sport miraculously wins both titles next year as a non-works entry, because the overall state of the WRC is such that, for Ford, there would still have been little point in taking part as a manufacturer. What is there to gain in commercial terms from winning a WRC title these days?

One has to wonder what the future now holds. VW versus Hyundai from 2014? Or a complete rethink — a 'back to basics' approach, perhaps?

I cannot believe that this massive blow for WRC is stuck in this thread

If it was a french team pulling out my god it would be everywhere

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Originally Posted by EightGear

IF M-Sport manage to get a big sponsor, they might be better of that way instead of the little money Ford would have payed them.

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Don't want to sound too negative, but what makes you think M-Sport would invest much more in WRC alone, than with Ford support. If they were willing to probably would do it by now as their business is quite good. I hope I'm wrong though...

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Don't want to sound too negative, but what makes you think M-Sport would invest much more in WRC alone, than with Ford support. If they were willing to probably would do it by now as their business is quite good. I hope I'm wrong though...

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I'm not thinking or expecting anything. What I meant was that IF, and I know it is a big IF, a company like Monster will sponsor M-Sport, they might spend as much money as Ford has been paying M-Sport the past years (not much).

But really there is no point in speculating about such things. We'll see how it will turn out.

In all honesty, Ford was a dead duck in the sport for quite some years now. I think the championship will still get better in the next few years.

Ford out, VW and Hyundai in. It was just a question of time until pseudo-official Ford team were lost in the middle of more powerfull official entry's.