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I don´t think so, maybe we will see him regularly beside the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by 62motorsport
I am almost certain that we will see regularly several new 1600 wrs´s beside the road and i hope without serious impact.
If they have now already almost the same speed as the wrccars 2010 I see the future of WRC black.
The program for Frederico Villagra is confirmed. 9 WRC events plus the Argentina championship. Munchi's Ford will again have a Ford (Fiesta) WRC
Rene Kuipers will start the 2011 WRC in a S2000 Fiesta, in Sweden. In the second half of the season, when more Fiesta WRcars are availalbe, he will change to a Fiesta WRC. His 2011 program will be announced later on
rene kuipers will be the first customer to get a fiesta wrc which will be run be ipatec / buckleys team who are running his s2000 which he recently took delivery of , px10 akp
Dennis Kuiper you mean ? Dennis will dirve a WRC Fiesta on 10 rounds, starting from Sweden. Rene Kuipers (the oldfer Kuipers) will start with a S2000 Fietsa in Sweden
no i mean rene , dennis is doing 10 rounds in a m-sport hired fiesta wrc run by m-sport under ipatec name , rene has brought the s2000 as he wont get his own fiesta wrc till mid year , his fiesta will be the first customer car sold deal already done , all the 10 fiesta wrc in sweden will be m-sport owned and hired to people like munchi s , monster , ostberg , d kuipers , henning etc
Gardemeister might drive more IRC rallies than just Monte Carlo, budget looks quite good at the moment.
Nice to hear! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Do you know the 9 WRC rallies in which Villagra will start? Thanks for the news, alleskids :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
EDIT:So his WRC program is Mexico, Portugal, Sardinia, Argentina, Greece, Finland, Germany, France and Catalonia
[quote="alleskids"]The program for Frederico Villagra is confirmed. 9 WRC events plus the Argentina championship. Munchi's Ford will again have a Ford (Fiesta) WRC
I´ve read that Villagra´s Fiesta will be a "superproduction" one :confused: . Is that right?. Will it be a 1.6T or a "proper" WRC? I thought Wilson wasn´t interested in 1.6T from WRC version development up to now. I believe only Mini BMW is going to run 1.6T SP version (Oliveira for instance...), at least on first months of the year. But, if I´m wrong, all the other privateer teams with Fiestas or DS3s are going to run WRC ones or 1.6T SP ones? :confused:
what's the difference between 1.6T SP and WRC? Bodywork?Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
According to recently released regulations it's front bumper, rear wing, engine fly wheel, brake discs and calipers.
The only SP so far is the Mini Countryman S, available for Rally Portugal. Yet no other downgraded WRCar or upgraded S2000 is in the market. Skoda is working on a Fabia 1.6t SP. Does Ford even have plans for a Fiets SP? Citroen only concentrates on the WRCar.
Hans Weijs Jr is planning an assault on the 2011 PWRC with a Citroen DS3 R3T, from Yves Matton's MyRacing.
So, differences between them aren´t so huge, I guess. Is it to be expected a great pace and power difference between these classes? It looks like 1.6T SP cars are at a very higher level related to s2000 and R4 cars. An unfair battle between all theses sort of cars at same class then? Maybe it had been more logical separate classes to compete...(I´m thinking on ERC for instance, now that 1.6T SP cars are allowed)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
For sure yes. M-Sport must run it's business and WRC cars are only for WRC championship. There is bigger market outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
They are separated in 2011 regulations. S2000 1.6T is class 1, S2000 N/A and R4 are class 2. And yes, if they won't change regulations again, S2000 1.6T will be very close to WRC in performance and faster than S2000 N/A.Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
So it should be relatively easier for Ford, Citroen and Mini to build a WRCar and downgrade it to SP, then for Peugeot and Skoda to upgrade their S2000 car?
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Originally Posted by alleskids
No. Ford's chief has said he hasn't plans to sell an SP (any cars with 1.6 turbo).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That’s also what I read in Gpweek some times ago. A S2000 2000cc NA is cheaper than a S2000 1.6T (SP). But if the SP version is allowed next year and the Mini SP starts to dominate, maybe he change his mind.
For those manufacturers who have a WRC it would be a quite easy task to make and homologate a SP version.
And it is in the SP version the volume and the money will be I presume. This is of course depend on national ASN regs, if they allow WRC in their championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
Of course they will, they are not that stupid. I have never said they would do that right from the start. It's only a matter of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Yuri Protasov started in PWRC on Top Run's Lancer X
What exactly is the point in the Superproduction cars then if they will be very nearly as expensive and quick as a WRCar?
I dont think they will be on same speed as WRC cars. I am sure that FIA "slow down" S2000 cars for regional championship (with comparing to WRC).
I never knew that Petter Solberg had tested a F1 car (Ferrari in 2009). Petter is more and more looking for a circuitcar, WTCC has his interest. Petter could be lost for WRC :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSco6Kk0Do
Is WTCC that much cheaper than WRC or IRC? It will be very hard for him in such a specialist championship.
Would like to know what seasonbudget you need for different championships of FIA, would be interesting to compare.
Petter's PR machine is doing a fantastic job, each winter again, to keep his name in the publicity. WTCC is in the same situation as WRC, with new regulation and so making the new cars hard to get, keeping the price high. Petter would better seek a drive in IRC, it would also keep his joy in rallying higher then in the political game of WRC
Why are Citroen people so damn stupid? The intention to sell manufacturer's fresh know-how in the new WRC cars, it is a very stupid thing to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
"Sell on Sunday, win on Monday".., it does not work!
I so hope Petter dosnt fall into that joke of a championship that is the WTCC, he deserves so much better than that :(
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Originally Posted by Bobcat
What option? IRC is clearly not a 'top class' (second to WRC) if he can not manage to raise the money needed for a top car in WRC why not take a paid drive? WTCC - I also hear Oreca LeMans being mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
Please, next time read properly before replying. It saves time both to You and me. Thank YouQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
please stick to posting bad photoshops of fiesta liveries....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
This speculation should stop within one week (4th January 2011 deadline for registrations for WRC) or two weeks on Jan 11th. when entries close for Rally Sweden
I respect Petter Solberg, both for his driving and his attitude, however I do not think it's fair all the anger being put on Citroen shoulders.
Im sure if they could support a car for Solberg they would do so, but those projects still require a huge amount of money and I fear Citroen Racing wouldn't be able to ask Citroen management for more money to run a driver in this sport you know, Citroen is no money machine like Ferrari.
I don't get it. Aren't there enough racedrivers available to pay? Why would Petter be a good option on a racetrack?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Maybe if Monster would finally see what a perfect man Petter is for Monster Ford Racing. If they have the budet for a second driver in 2011, as is reported many times, Petter wuld be a 10x beter choise then Kimi. Results wise and teaching Ken the right moves wise. Also publicity wise he would score almost as good as Kimi, expecially when he does his Mister Holywood tricks. He fist perfect in the Monster Energy Show TeamQuote:
Originally Posted by MJW
That’s a duel issue. I wouldn’t say that the volume will increase but the earned money per unit will increase. If the price of a SP is over 100.000 € more compared to a S2000 NA, I don’t think the sold volume would increase. I don’t know anything about marketing but that much I’ve learned by listening to marketing people is - what is the right price for a product, i.e. at what price can a product be sold to optimise the profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
In this case (SP vs. S2000 NA) the “price vs. volume” isn’t so obvious, because there’s also the performance issue involved.
Dont you think they would choose Atkinson if they have money, the guy who can bring the cash needed gets the seat there.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
By who is it reported that they have the money for a second driver?