Hyundai WRT

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Originally Posted by mknight

So being ahead of someone means you are worse now?

Btw. Neuville was 20s behind Breen on Saturday evening, so let's kick Neuville and hire Breen?



He was 6 seconds behind Ogier at that point, even if he crashed Neuville would still get same points, while overtaking Ogier would help Hyundai in manu champ. But hey I wrote that already and you ignored it while talking about facts.....ok.

Breens comment after first stage on Sunday:

Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
"I need to push more than that definitely. You need to stick your neck out sometimes in this game and it's time to do it.

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Btw. Mikkelsen was in same situation on Sardinia on sunday. He was allowed to push and try to overtake Evans, if he failed he would drop behind Neuville just like Breen did in Finland.

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Neuville was after a massive accident in Chile did you expect him to go to the fastest rally and be committed after that. Again my point was little or no test time and to be fastest Hyundai on Fri quite an achievement

"Breens contribution to teampoins from two starts was 0. So speed and likely results alone aren't the only reason."

Again why is his contribution 0? And what should it have been. Don't paint a picture of something that doesn't entirely reflect the truth of his performance in Finland.

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Hyundai has some devil inside @DaniSordo
's car. Without those car most reliable in WRC. Maybe i missed something but it looks pretty good to me.Most of them were start of the year also. #WRC #WRCLive @HMSGOfficial
@PushingPace

*it wasnt affect time very much


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Originally Posted by dimviii

Revo Rästa
@revo1992
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Hyundai has some devil inside @DaniSordo
's car. Without those car most reliable in WRC. Maybe i missed something but it looks pretty good to me.Most of them were start of the year also. #WRC #WRCLive @HMSGOfficial
@PushingPace

*it wasnt affect time very much


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We drove through SS9 in RACC. No way you could do such time without brakes. He would have had massive off on that stage without brakes. Problably the brakes lost some feel but I doubt it was a serious problem.

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The reason Mikkelsen is not starting Australia is just because Evans or Meeke didn't get past him on the points in Catalunya according to Adamo.
https://parcferme.no/rally/derfor-kj...OV8VjawFMwvBy0

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

The reason Mikkelsen is not starting Australia is just because Evans or Meeke didn't get past him on the points in Catalunya according to Adamo.
https://parcferme.no/rally/derfor-kj...OV8VjawFMwvBy0

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There are two aspects here:

1. 6 places later starting order does not mean Breen will be faster over the rally. In Finland he started 4 places behind and was slower on a rally where he has one of his 2 podiums and Mikkelsen has never been on a podium. Though off course it was Breens second rally with Hyundai WRC and first championship one.

2. In case some rain comes (as it did the last 2 years) the whole starting position "planning" will be nonsense or even counter-productive. Spreading the starting positions seems like a better idea than to have 2/3 of all cars at the back.

=> It basically sounds like a big excuse and the real reason is more that he doesn't trust him for some reason.

Also I dunno if they did it in the (paid) article but the obvious first question to Adamo should be why did he say otherwise on the post even press conference in Catalunya.

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Originally Posted by cali

We drove through SS9 in RACC. No way you could do such time without brakes. He would have had massive off on that stage without brakes. Problably the brakes lost some feel but I doubt it was a serious problem.

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Probably just glaced(is that right word) brake bads or something like that. That list was meant for those finns who are still so sure that Toyota is most reliable car in whole world. Even with those other teams "little" problems are Toyota issues count 10 more.


Now to the topic - Does anyone know where and when the test was for Ott&Martin?

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Originally Posted by mknight

There are two aspects here:

1. 6 places later starting order does not mean Breen will be faster over the rally. In Finland he started 4 places behind and was slower on a rally where he has one of his 2 podiums and Mikkelsen has never been on a podium. Though off course it was Breens second rally with Hyundai WRC and first championship one.

2. In case some rain comes (as it did the last 2 years) the whole starting position "planning" will be nonsense or even counter-productive. Spreading the starting positions seems like a better idea than to have 2/3 of all cars at the back.

=> It basically sounds like a big excuse and the real reason is more that he doesn't trust him for some reason.

Also I dunno if they did it in the (paid) article but the obvious first question to Adamo should be why did he say otherwise on the post even press conference in Catalunya.

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Mikkelsen has always been fast in Australia, if he is 4th or 8th on the road it dosen't matter, he would be faster than Breen in the Hyundai at this rally anyway.
Only resonable explantation is Mikkelsen don't drive Hyundai next year, and Breen does.
Mikkelsen to Toyota or M-sport, depends on Evans, Breen will do the leftover events in the WRC, and do development, testing and racing the R5, both of them.

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Originally Posted by skarderud

Mikkelsen has always been fast in Australia, if he is 4th or 8th on the road it dosen't matter, he would be faster than Breen in the Hyundai at this rally anyway.
Only resonable explantation is Mikkelsen don't drive Hyundai next year, and Breen does.
Mikkelsen to Toyota or M-sport, depends on Evans, Breen will do the leftover events in the WRC, and do development, testing and racing the R5, both of them.

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I’m pretty sure that Mikkelsen will have done some irreparable damage at the start of the year with all that contract business.
Probably why he’s not with the management company who allowed his water tight contract to leak.

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Originally Posted by T16

I’m pretty sure that Mikkelsen will have done some irreparable damage at the start of the year with all that contract business.
Probably why he’s not with the management company who allowed his water tight contract to leak.

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My guess would be that Mikkelsen wants to be able to pay for a drive. It was pretty clear that EVEN does not pay for a WRC drive. Once a paydriver, always a paydriver. Tidemand also left shortly before he started paying for M-Sport drives.

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Originally Posted by Myrvold

My guess would be that Mikkelsen wants to be able to pay for a drive. It was pretty clear that EVEN does not pay for a WRC drive. Once a paydriver, always a paydriver. Tidemand also left shortly before he started paying for M-Sport drives.

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I’m sure Mikkelsen does NOT want to pay for a drive, and split from EVEN because he would not want to split what income he can with a manager.

If there are only a very small number of seats available, perhaps even at one team, why do you need a manager....?

He knows the phone numbers of the people involved. It’s not a big service park.

And Tidemand split for the same reason. Why pay a manager a split of your income if you’re paying for the drives with your own sponsors and can do the deals yourself?