The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by henners88

How do you know he rolled over wothout a fight?

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I watched the 2008 & 2009 seasons.

It appears you didn't see them, but they were on the television.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I still find it amazing though the total lack of respect some Ferrari fans give to Kimi almost as though he owes them something

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And I don't find it surprising that it is a Mclaren fan saying it.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I wonder what do you know about great Ferrari drivers?!
You rubbish a Ferrari WDC while gushing over Alonso who, for now, contributed nothing to the great Ferrari history.

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Lauda, Scheckter, Schumacher. They were great Ferrari drivers.

Alonso still has the chance to be....something Kimi does not. His chance has gone.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Lauda, Scheckter, Schumacher. They were great Ferrari drivers.

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Posting a list of names is useless, what do you know about them?!

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Alonso still has the chance to be....something Kimi does not. His chance has gone.

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As far as I am concerned up to this moment Kimi did more for Ferrari than Alonso.

You chose to support the driver who probably said eh worse things about Ferrari in the past and in the same time you are trashing a driver who, championship to Ferrari.

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Originally Posted by henners88

How do you know he rolled over wothout a fight? Nobody here was present in that boardroom at Maranello, and I can't imagine Kimi backed up by his manager Steve Robertson would have taken it lightly. Are you aware of Robertson's reputation? He's shrewd, and had Ron Dennis over a barrel more than once, and Ron is no pushover. Lets not forget Robertson negotiated an obscene $50M a season contract with Ferrari, and they accepted. ;)

Kimi is a Ferrari champion and his record at Ferrari is still very impressive, but Ferrari (Luca) wanted a new lead driver as their obsession with finding the next Michael Schumacher is still at the top of the list. Once again they purchased the most desirable driver on the grid and that was Alonso. Its still early days but Alonso is yet to prove his worth within the team and has had a season so far littered with mistakes and misfortune.

I still find it amazing though the total lack of respect some Ferrari fans give to Kimi almost as though he owes them something.. Two WCC's and a WDC in 3 season's isn't bad is it? Wow.. :mark:

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I gave Kimi plenty of love when he was with the Scuderia. Now he is history he was beaten by Felipe
in 2008, and was behind (slightly) Massa in 2009 before his injury. Kimi really did yeoman’s duty after that event, but he didn’t excel in that car at the time Massa and he drove it. Check the archives. I worshiped Kimi when he was with the Scuderia! Now he has been replaced by a better and more accomplished pilot!

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Originally Posted by ioan

Posting a list of names is useless, what do you know about them?!




You chose to support the driver who probably said eh worse things about Ferrari in the past

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Kimi said very little about anything!
Weve come full circle. Now as was stated, Fred is very engaged at Ferrari.
Kimi is gone, why waste time on him? He is one in a long line of great Ferrari Pilots. What else does he deserve?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Posting a list of names is useless, what do you know about them?!



As far as I am concerned up to this moment Kimi did more for Ferrari than Alonso.

You chose to support the driver who probably said eh worse things about Ferrari in the past and in the same time you are trashing a driver who, championship to Ferrari.

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I dunno why is this Alonso - Kimi fight. I supported Kimi while he was a Ferrari driver and I support Alonso now. Both are amazing drivers with amazing talent. That's it.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

True, it was not his decision, but he rolled over without a fight.

Great Ferrari drivers do not do that.

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Luca? Stefano?? :eek:

Someone with such a flawed logic can only be one of the two men who are leading Ferrari right now. It's funny how they assumed that finding the next Schumacher, i.e. getting Alonso and his magical "6 tenths" would be enough for them to win the WDC, while they forgot the three much more important aspects of the team that won all those championships, Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne.

If not for Kimi, Ferrari would have finished 3rd in the Drivers World Championship in 2007.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

Luca? Stefano?? :eek:

Someone with such a flawed logic can only be one of the two men who are leading Ferrari right now. It's funny how they assumed that finding the next Schumacher, i.e. getting Alonso and his magical "6 tenths" would be enough for them to win the WDC, while they forgot the three much more important aspects of the team that won all those championships, Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne.

If not for Kimi, Ferrari would have finished 3rd in the Drivers World Championship in 2007.

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Even if Mike stayed?
Hold the phone chief. This season is 1/2 over, a little early to be writing it off.
I know what a big Kimi honk you are.
in 2005 Fred beat Kimi straight up. That Mclaren was as fast or faster than the Renault! (although Kimi did have a perpensity of detonating it) :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

If not for Kimi, Ferrari would have finished 3rd in the Drivers World Championship in 2007.

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Not sure if you thought twice before coming up with this one.

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Originally Posted by Tazio

That Mclaren was as fast or faster than the Renault! (although Kimi did have a perpensity of detonating it) :rolleyes:

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Rubbish.