WRC-Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Why do you guys make such nasty ditches everywhere?

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Yes, this is not ditch. It is small depression where drunk people tend to sleep when they get tired. You know, no risk of rolling away from your "bed" ;-)

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

How do you spell "pro-sak'' på finska? K-o-r-s-k............ :crazy: Oi då!

but what I wonder is I don't know what to call it except maybe ''the culture of the team'' multiplied by National culture. I worked in motorsport just a step between National Champignonskit and VM in another sport and spent 2 season in France and after I had pounded my head on the ground enough, then 10 years later did a series of long interviews with Ford at Boreham right when the 4x4 Sierras were in testing..

My lasting impression of those 2 seasons in France is how well the Frenchies I know worked together.. Not frantic panic last minute thrashing, but long and steady, and a lot of cooperation between everybody. Way less ''territorial'' or ''this is my turf'' than I see local where I am...
And I saw it in the 'real world'' culture in general in France..definately something there, I did spend 2 full season and spoke the language, worked next to these guys.

I did also work and later have lots of motorsport contacts and visits in UK, and the 'atmosphere' was much much different...way more stratification between people, kinda more hierarchical....ya know Owners, Engineers, peon mechanics, etc..
That was impression (not a value judgement).

When we think the differences really are 0,0002%, I wonder how much they general team 'cooperative feeling' makes a tiny differency getting everything right...Maybe a difference of 0,0001%?

Your thoughts?

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Having been very slightly exposed to the French way of doing WRC and the two British teams I agree with your perception.

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Yes, this is not ditch. It is small depression where drunk people tend to sleep when they get tired. You know, no risk of rolling away from your "bed" ;-)

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I hate that when it happens!

Few photos from fridays stages Urria, Mökkiperä and Mökkiperä 2
http://kaitainen.net/gallery.php?id=186&lang=en

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Originally Posted by MJW

Having been very slightly exposed to the French way of doing WRC and the two British teams I agree with your perception.

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So French are like bees in a hive, English like wasp nest. What should we expect from the Germans? Last WRC team there was Toyota if I'm not mistaken.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

So French are like bees in a hive, English like wasp nest. What should we expect from the Germans? Last WRC team there was Toyota if I'm not mistaken.

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Toyota was a United Nations, Swedes, Finns, French, Brits, Belgians' and Germans. A fantastic team, much missed.

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Originally Posted by MJW

Toyota was a United Nations, Swedes, Finns, French, Brits, Belgians' and Germans. A fantastic team, much missed.

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I would add one more as it's an interesting man (I admit don't know him personally). Czech Josef Juračka was working in TTE in 1990-1995. He is now owner of Juka Motorsport - team which has been running Škoda Deutschland cars for ten years (now Wiegand in IRC). His team was also cooperating in building S2000 cars for Škoda Motorsport customers. Also capable of major rebuilds of all Škoda WRC cars.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I would add one more as it's an interesting man (I admit don't know him personally). Czech Josef Juračka was working in TTE in 1990-1995. He is now owner of Juka Motorsport - team which has been running Škoda Deutschland cars for ten years (now Wiegand in IRC). His team was also cooperating in building S2000 cars for Škoda Motorsport customers. Also capable of major rebuilds of all Škoda WRC cars.

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That's correct, sorry I forgot.

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Originally Posted by MJW

Toyota was a United Nations, Swedes, Finns, French, Brits, Belgians' and Germans. A fantastic team, much missed.

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I believe there was also a New Zealander in the squad. I don't know his name but recall buying a house in Christchurch (1992) from a lady whose son was a member of the team. She was most proud.

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Originally Posted by MJW

That's correct, sorry I forgot.

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No need to apologize ;) You can't remember every single person through the history of the team, can You? :) He just came to my mind when You wrote about TTE as an interesting mix of nationalities.