Exactly what I was thinking. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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Exactly what I was thinking. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
No way. Maybe some memories, but definitely I would like to see all the best drivers competing in the WRC and not only top seven if other good drivers are at home and some rich boys are playing with the big toys.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I was planning the trip to Sweden, but it seems that there is no sense and better to start planning to follow some IRC and Slowly Sideways events...!
Yeah, generally you are right. Even SWRC is not present in Sweden. Hopefully PWRC will have a very strong field in PWRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
To answer your last question: yes. And I think it's ok to cut Östberg out from top five, its gonna be top four competing next year. Top three, if Mikko continues with this years pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Rally is going to be even more niche sport. Not exactly the way to go...
Hmm, yet we are told 2011 is the start of a new era for WRC. Do they think we are all fools.....???Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodeye
Where are all the other Manufacturers...???? I don't want rumours, just cold, hard facts...!!!
C'mon who didn't saw this coming?! If the prices to run those cars are cheaper now, yet more drivers with money will be able to get a seat. You thought cheaper cars would bring less paying drivers?! This will only change when the manufacters themselfs start to invest more money in the sport.
You see, this is why I wanted normal Super 2000 cars for the top-flight of rallying. I personally think Citroen and Ford have messed it up, as I believe they were the ones pushing for WRcars again. Things could of been simple, but the WRC dosen't 'do' simple it seems.
Thank goodness for the IRC.
Van Merksteijn jr. will skip Mexico, Argentina and Finland
What about the others:
How many races will they do and witch?
Kuipers
Block
Östberg
Villagra
Al-Qassimi
Others with WRC
Mini is starting from Sardinia? Where else will they race?
Some of this info is already here, but I don´t want to read maybe 50 pages back.
I think in Sweden we will have 14 WRC, but in Mexico and Argentiina maybe only 6-8 WRC. Sardinia could be first witch have over 15 WRC in startline.
I think we will be happy if in Sweden will be 10 WRC...
Ken Block will do all WRC eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Kuipers 10.
Mini will not debut the Countryman before Sardinia? Araujo and Oliviera have plans to do Rally Portugal with the car :confused:
Homologation of Mini should be 1.3.2011
So, if there is only a certain number of WRC 1.6 cars that can be built for the start of 2011, are WRCs of the past still to run in the meantime, and if so what kind of handicap will they get, if anything?
2.0 WRC are not allowed anymore.
Official factory car might debut in Sardinia, private cars can start day of homologation.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
It was said that all the events except Finland, bacause the X-Games...Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
So why don't they 'grand-father' them to boost entries? 10/12 S1.6T WRC's is hardly great is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Do you think Citroen and Ford would allow that?! there is a risk of the old car being faster than the new ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
That's why you grand-father them. Restrict the BHP, smaller restrictor, etc do whatever so they don't threaten the 'chosen ones'.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Never mind, a dozen S1.6T will suffice....... ;)
And three days later situation is completely different - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11460Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Are you sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Shouldn't Mini be a WRC? And Fiesta and also DS3?
The rule wasn't to the S2000 like Peugeot 207, Skoda Fabia, etc?
Fiesta, DS3 and Mini will be WRC, for sure. But this cars will be only for WRC events.
But I am talking about S2000 with 1.6 turbo engine, which is completely different.
Too much complicating , not good at all in my opinion ...
It's not completely different, just slightly. Anyway it may cause a lot of problems...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
And it seems to be official also. Restrictor size is not still decided (page 10-11).Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public..._Regs&Appx.pdf
Yes, thats why I wrote the article. Also notice about postponing till 2012 in official press release of FIA after WMSC meeting last Friday was surprisingly deleted...
Does anybody know what has happened with Ketomaa/FCACA? It looked promising as next year was confirmed, but yesterday Tomi Tuominen (blog comments) said that Ketomaa has no team for next year..
Yes, but the translation of your article talks about pressures from David Richards... What was his interest in allowing the S2000 1.6T in regional championships? Without these cars he could sell a few more Mini's...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
But in fact, the 4.1 (eligeble cars) refers de S2000 1.6T...
Loeb is testing his DS3 in Sweden this week.
http://www.vk.se/Article.jsp?article=402938
Because they have also Superproduction Mini to sell, maybe that is why they put this kind of effort into this?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Richards has big interest in allowing the S2000 1.6T in regional championships. Bigger, than in WRC. Because he wants to finance his WRC programme from selling this cars to regional championships...Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
PLuto, i'm confused. Which cars has Richards interest?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
The Mini to private teams? But the car shouldn't be a WRC downgraded? :confused:
Yes, it is downgraded WRC Mini, but with smaller restrictor, less aerodynamics and some other changes. It is called superproduction car. It still has 1.6T engine tough and will compete against S2000 in this case. :( The idea was to make that happen at beginning of 2012 season, but now, under influence of Dave Richards, FIA came back on their earlier decision and they will be allowed in regional championships at beginning of 2011 allready. That will create major problems for rallies who have both IRC and ERC status. As IRC will not allow these type of car in their championship i am afraid those rally's will have to choose between IRC and ERC. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
a shame, I had expectations of seeing at Ketomaa in a WRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by vkangas
The sporting regulations for regional championships have disappeared from the FIA’s web site. However the link is still working http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public..._Regs&Appx.pdf. There must be something going on behind the scenes.
I don't understand the interest of Richards. If the S2000 1.6T could run on the regional championships, then he could sell less Mini's WRC to that championships.... don't? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
He could sell no wrc cars at all. They aren´t allowed to run regional championships!! Selling s2000 1.6T cars is a way to get budget to run wrc championship with more guarantees to succeed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
But Richards sells Mini's, and the Mini is a WRC, not a S2000 1.6T... or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
Both of them!! Mini BMW wants to homologate a WRC on one hand, and a s2000 1.6T on the other. Two versions of the same carQuote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Ahhh, ok :DQuote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
But is still possible to homologate S2000? From January 1st will be impossible. And the 1.6T will be a kind of extension to an existing S2000 homologation.