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1st July 2010, 11:52
I am evil Homer

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Originally Posted by AndyL

Those two ideas don't quite match up - if it's not an advert or subliminal message (or at least intended as such), then why would Philip Morris be angered?

I believe it was removed because the EU were getting hot under the collar about it, threatening to take action on the basis that they considered it stealth advertising. The bar code has disappeared from the Ducati MotoGP bikes too.

Well because they're paying a lot of money a year to be associated and now can't be - as Arrows explains it was there way of being on the cars. Now they aren't in any way....makes you wonder how much longer they'll bother...

Arrows - that's what I thought but really if its not an ad why remove it? Were they forced to or was it done by Ferrari to avoid issues? I've tried searching for a definitive answer but there doesn't seem to be one.

All this came from this contact who mentioned PM potentially withdrawing all sponsorship from Ferrari at the end of this year - he didn't mention Ducati however so i'm just trying to figure how legit this 'rumour' might be.
1st July 2010, 12:04
ArrowsFA1

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

...if its not an ad why remove it?

It was effectively an ad.

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

Were they forced to or was it done by Ferrari to avoid issues?

I think Ferrari removed it to avoid further issues. They were the last of the 'tobacco' teams and had managed to 'get way' with the barcode advertising for some time. Perhaps they felt they'd pushed their luck for long enough :p :

As for PM withdrawing sponsorship at the end of the year...as I understood it they 'own' all advertising space on the Ferrari and 'sell' it to other brands, so I guess they make money that way, but with the loss of the barcode they don't have any presence on the cars themselves. Their deal with Ferrari runs until 2011 so perhaps they're looking for an exit.
1st July 2010, 13:18
Mia 01

I would like if Ferrari can make the step forward, thoose updates they used the last race where useful.

The scores between Lewis and Fernando have to be even, not atleast in the light of the last saga.
1st July 2010, 14:46
Tazio

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

I would like if Ferrari can make the step forward, thoose updates they used the last race where useful.

The scores between Lewis and Fernando have to be even, not atleast in the light of the last saga.

As opposed to Jens' view I take Stefano D at his word and the last I heard they will be working on improving the car for quite some time.
Here again I will try to put Ferrari Valencia frustration into context! (And if you flame me I will kick your a@@ :) We (the viewers) really didn't get a complete picture of what they accomplished because we didn't know what fuel loads they were carrying during practice, and lets face it stuck down in the midfield is nowhere to be at Valencia. This coupled with what is the general consensus that the improvement were not to be nearly as advantages as they will be at a dedicated race tracks bodes well for the scuderia MARLBORO team. :s mokin: :laugh:

Also we have to realize Hamilton is a very fast driver, and is qualifies well at this track.
My assessing the practice times, the 3 qualifying stages and the first couple laps before the accident. The car was going well, so well Alonso was told to ease off and follow the wounded Hamilton for a while, (remember the broken end plate?) maybe until the stops.
I think Ferrari also have better sector 3 times than the Mclaren, sector 3 being very technical. Suggesting the F10 has improved slow speed characteristics with the new exhaust system jmhto
1st July 2010, 17:59
Mia 01

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Originally Posted by Tazio

As opposed to Jens' view I take Stefano D at his word and the last I heard they will be working on improving the car for quite some time.
Here again I will try to put Ferrari Valencia frustration into context! (And if you flame me I will kick your a@@ :) We (the viewers) really didn't get a complete picture of what they accomplished because we didn't know what fuel loads they were carrying during practice, and lets face it stuck down in the midfield is nowhere to be at Valencia. This coupled with what is the general consensus that the improvement were not to be nearly as advantages as they will be at a dedicated race tracks bodes well for the scuderia MARLBORO team. :s mokin: :laugh:

Also we have to realize Hamilton is a very fast driver, and is qualifies well at this track.
My assessing the practice times, the 3 qualifying stages and the first couple laps before the accident. The car was going well, so well Alonso was told to ease off and follow the wounded Hamilton for a while, (remember the broken end plate?) maybe until the stops.
I think Ferrari also have better sector 3 times than the Mclaren, sector 3 being very technical. Suggesting the F10 has improved slow speed characteristics with the new exhaust system jmhto

Thanks. I hope you are right.
2nd July 2010, 02:35
Tazio

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

Thanks. I hope you are right.

Straight from the horse's (Donkey) mouth: :s mokin:

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The updates we brought to Spain saw us make a step forward and get closer to the front runners,” Fernando Alonso said. “I am satisfied with that, but also aware that we must continue to push on with the development of the F10, because we need to have a car capable of fighting for pole and to give us the edge over our rivals as soon as possible. If we are now 29 points off the championship leader, it means that in the next ten races, we have to score at least 30 more than whoever is in the lead at any one time.”

Be assured of one thing if nothing else:
There ain't no quit in this guy! :bandit: :beer:

http://f1.automoto365.com/news/f1/al...0-41313-1.html

You guys do the math! I don't trust Fred :D
2nd July 2010, 08:49
Mia 01

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Straight from the horse's (Donkey) mouth: :s mokin:

Be assured of one thing if nothing else:
There ain't no quit in this guy! :bandit: :beer:

http://f1.automoto365.com/news/f1/al...0-41313-1.html

You guys do the math! I don't trust Fred :D

Agreed, fred needs to do moore than talking.
2nd July 2010, 14:23
pallone col bracciale

Fernando is beating his team-mate and not allowing the Ferrari management to back off development.

A vast improvement over the driver who was there last year, already.
2nd July 2010, 16:12
truefan72

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Fernando is beating his team-mate and not allowing the Ferrari management to back off development.

A vast improvement over the driver who was there last year, already.

who beat his teammate while driving a dog of a car and brought home the last Ferrari WDC in 2007 despite 2 fearsome competitors.
and another thing, Ferrari work hard on developing their car no matter who is driving them.
2nd July 2010, 16:43
Tazio

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Originally Posted by truefan72

who beat his teammate while driving a dog of a car and brought home the last Ferrari WDC in 2007 despite 2 fearsome competitors.
and another thing, Ferrari work hard on developing their car no matter who is driving them.

The same guy who had to ride bitch for Massa the last three races of 2008. Now who's whipping Massa's butt in the other car?

pallone col bracciale makes a valid point!
Why don't you go bash Fettel or Mike! or Mark or Button. This is the Ferrari fans thread!
not some punk@@@ bashers thread!

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