[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

Imagine the following situation in which Loeb enters a rally, beats Hirvonen and helps him at the same time:

Situation 1, without Loeb:
1. Ogier wins, gets 25 points
2. Hirvonen second, 18 points, which is seven less than Ogier.

Situation 2, same rally, but with Loeb's entry:
1. Loeb wins, gets 25 points
2. Ogier second, gets 18 points,
3. Hirvonen third, gets 15 points, only three less than Ogier.

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Originally Posted by kober

Imagine the following situation in which Loeb enters a rally, beats Hirvonen and helps him at the same time:

Situation 1, without Loeb:
1. Ogier wins, gets 25 points
2. Hirvonen second, 18 points, which is seven less than Ogier.

Situation 2, same rally, but with Loeb's entry:
1. Loeb wins, gets 25 points
2. Ogier second, gets 18 points,
3. Hirvonen third, gets 15 points, only three less than Ogier.

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The only thing missing from this scenario is Hirvonen helping himself.

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

The only thing missing from this scenario is Hirvonen helping himself.

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Hirvonen will help himself by being on the podium in all the other rallies too :)

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Originally Posted by Karukera

And with Loeb joining in for a limited selection of rallies (tarmac only ?) he will probably settle for 3rd in order to not take points away from Hirvonen.

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You really think so? I don't buy that.

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Originally Posted by Hazza555)

Pretty sure the two couldn't more different really. GRC is like moto supercross for cars... supposed to be a bit of show, big jumps, arena type layouts.
European Rallycross is more like normal motocross, out in the real world. The only thing that is similar are the cars, I believe. Didn't Tanner Foust do some European events?

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Tanner was co-ERC champion last year as I recall. He is actually the real deal.

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Originally Posted by Plan9

Tanner was co-ERC champion last year as I recall. He is actually the real deal.

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He finished second in the championship, the winner was Isachsen.

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Originally Posted by Plan9

Tanner was co-ERC champion last year as I recall. He is actually the real deal.

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Tanner is the real deal. I honestly wish he would have had the opportunity to try the wrc over Block. I think the results would be much better.

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Originally Posted by Plan9

If VW does GRC that would be amazing. Isn't it expanding into Europe? Does GRC have a relationship with its European counterpart?

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They are two different entities, but as stated, there's work being done to accommodate both schedules for drivers. I know tanner has recently expressed agitation towards the recent ERC developments. Not sure if that had anything to do with him not attending the latest ERC round. Looks like things are getting ironed out, though. I think the VW venture into GRC has more to do with GRC actually expanding globally next year and not so much about a US presence. Spain, Brazil, Germany if I'm not mistaken? Be sick to see a preped polo on US soil, though; even a golf. More will be known at SEMA at the end of October; final GRC round. Sucks for Millen, hope he has a ride next year - dodge?

Back to wrc banter.

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Originally Posted by kober

Imagine the following situation:

2. Hirvonen second

3. Hirvonen third

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Pretty wild scenarios there. Now that the "road is clear" for Mikko to take over, it is time to make mistakes and over-drive the car, thanks to the extra pressure of the assumed #1 status.

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

You really think so?

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Free of charge :)

Just to clarify, i was talking about the possibility of Sordo going to Citroën and purposedly settling behind Hirvonen when Loeb enters a rally.
Loeb will want to win events he starts or in the extreme, support Hirvonen if really necessary...

My point is to underline how precious a semi second fiddle Sordo can be.

The equation will be anyway tricky with Latvala, Solberg and Ogier on the field. That's what makes 2013 exciting.