Lets hope that there are going to be more than the stated 4 DS3's then, or if thats true that means no DS3 for Kimi and Petter.
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Lets hope that there are going to be more than the stated 4 DS3's then, or if thats true that means no DS3 for Kimi and Petter.
So how many DS3s will turn up in Sweden ?
are we now up to 5:
2 x Citroen
2 x Citroen Jr
1 x Merksteijn jr
Or will it be more !
Nothing against Peter, but it shows only that money still talks next season. There is only limited amount of the new World Rally Cars available and now drivers like van Merksteijns and Kuipers (Fiesta WRC) are able to drive one of these machines. It seems that nothing has changed and if Citroen has only four DS3 WRC Petter or Kimi or both are out of the WRC 2011...Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Exactly! It's business, but it will be a shame if Kuipers and Van Merkestein take these cars, Rauntenbach and Warmbold syndrome lives, but in those days there were more cars available. Its a shame technical rules were so late to restrict the supply of competitive cars for 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Don't forget M-sport get's money from [who?] for Fiesta R2 in FIA WRC Academy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
As I understand from the press release, van Merksteijn is to be counted as one of the CJT drivers, so that's only Loeb, Ogier and van Merksteijn comfirmed for DS3 WRC drive so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
And like said, money talks. Hopefully we'll see some more competetive names get money for a WRC drive as well, and of course plenty of S2000s as well.
Regarding the article, then it sais that "Citroën Racing" is running/preparing the DS3 WRC car for PvM Jr. in 2011. Isn't it PH-Sport that are running the Citroën Jr. Team? ... I am pretty sure they have the last 2-3 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
If this means what we fear, it´s the biggest joke of all motorsports! :eek: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
This can´t be true to be honest.
Those responsible for such decisions should not be allowed to participate!!!!
We have so many topdrivers waiting for a seat and this is the outcome! EeeeeeKK!!
Good for him, but I think he will be beaten by top drivers with S2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
The text also says that his father will be doing some events with the DS3.
Peter Jr is not that bad... But indeed there are drivers with more talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I am glad because one reason: This gives exposure to WRC in Nederland.
I know it is bad for talent drivers like Solberg and maybe other talents who want take a step forward. True.
Van Merksteijn is not "that" bad, yeah right, Mathew needs competition :) , but I`m not sure he will chalenge even Mathew. Sad times for WRC, Quesnel and Wilson rule the WRC.
Peter Jr. had potential, and I would've rated him higher than Kuipers had he not been out of competition for a whole year. I'm not sure how to rate him now, but good luck to him.
The ironic thing to me is that finally some Dutch drivers take "prominence" in the World Rally Championship, but they aren't the ones you've hoped for, nor the most talented. But it's good for exposure because Loeb winning a rally or a championship doesn't go down the papers here.
:up: spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Josti
Has Quesnel ever said "we're only building 4 cars"....not to my knowledge. Running only 4 themselves maybe but no one actually knows for certainQuote:
Originally Posted by MJW
For the first part of the season only 4 DS3WRC cars for sure :
1 Loeb
2 Ogier
3 ???
4 Van Merkensteijn
Sure it´s good for Netherlands but I dont want WRC to decrease to be a natinal championship for NL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
But thats what its gonna be NL and France. maybe thats what Todt wants.
Big shame on how everything rules right now. Because the outcome is because of many different occasions that has been ruled out wrong.
I'm speechless and I don't know what to think about the arrival of Van Merksteijn Jr at Citroën Racing :rolleyes:
It`s disappointment :)
Having looked at the entry of Monte Carlo with Solberg x 2, PG, Atko etc on that and look at potentially Seb X2 + JML & MH in wrc with the wealthy gentlemen drivers occupying the few new top cars available I am very disappointed in WRC, for the very first time I think IRC is more "sporting". With this news WRC has confirmed to me that it is now a rich tourist series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
You mean they rule also the FIA when i´ts about WRC. I try to say this already for years here! :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by mm1
Completly agree, but no from now on. It cames from last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Surely that spare Citroen seat has to go to Petter.
Perhaps PSA/Red Bull should send Kimi to IRC for a year where he can learn how to drive and for a bit less $$$.
No S2000 with 1.6 Turbo in regional championships in 2011 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11444
Let's see it from the bright side, Merksteijn's, Kuipers entry brings a lot of money for Citroen and Ford which they can invest in more cars or payed drivers. Besides, it will take the sport to a new level in the Netherlands, which, at the moment, is not really rally minded. I am sure the last DS3 will go to Petter if he can find some sponsorship.
Indeed it seems to me the loser is likely to be Kimi.
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Originally Posted by NiekJ
Because with Al Qassimi Ford/M-Sport didn't get enough money :confused:
You're right, it's all about the $$$ off course, but one guy entering WRC doesn't mean it's always at the expense of another one. IMO it is likely we just have an extra WRC to watch. What's bad about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
The looser isnt Kimi. He can sit at his home and laugh all the way to bank, and also looking at all other offers from other motorsports. If Kimi wants to drive he´ll do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
The looser is WRC and the public eg. us. We want drivers worth the name and not more tourists.
Fully agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
We dont want the sport becoming full of rich boys getting drives because of their dads, we go to watch the very best in the world!
+1
And we do! We have Loeb, Ogier, Hirvonen, Latvala, Solberg, Sordo, Solberg2, Meeke etc. We now have a few more. What's a WRC with only 8 drivers? And hey, give them a change, they both proved to be quite competetive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
I agree, but the championship lacks manufacturers for that. CJT is a semi-works team so having a pay driver ain't unlogical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
We could have paid drivers (if there's new manufacturers... maybe VW and Saab) and tourists (private teams are for them!)... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It would be better with Wilson jr in the DS3. At least he has been in the top 10.
Would van Merksteijn have a different motive? Would it be possible that they have nominated themselves (Peter Snr and Peter jr) just to secure the two DS3s? Could be a bit like Stobart and they bring in specalist drives as they need them. This could be more than just black and white.
Commercial wise it would be a hell of a deal if Van Merksteijn adopted Petter Solberg. Peter sr picks the rallies he likes, and let Petter drive the other ones. It would increase the advertisment exposure with 10.000% compared to driving themselfs, not only in Nederland, but al over Europe, and open many markets.
And it saved time for Citroen Racing with repainting the purple car many times in 2011 :) . Painted purple in januari and keep it purple all year long.
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Originally Posted by NiekJ
Sordo + Meeke only for a few selected events in 2011 :mark:
What the h...! Apparently one Mini is driving by Daniel Olivieira. The driver who was at the same level in the IRC like Burcu Çetinkaya. There was no speed at all and now he will competing at the top level.
Yes. It is possible to take poinst, because after top five (and later top seven): Loeb, Ogier, Hirvonen, Latvala, Østberg, (Meeke, Sordo) there is only Wilson, Villagra, Al Qassimi, van Merksteyn Jr., van Merksteyn Sr., Block, Kuipers...
Will the WRC 2011 season be the ultimate nightmare....?
Do not worry, go to Sweden, to the first corner of first SS, bring a big rope, some shovels and good camera friend with you. You are going to have a lot of fun and memories later :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by rp
Hmmm, didn't think WRCars getting cheaper would mean more crappy pay drivers than ever!