[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

All of You have part of the truth I think. First is that grip on tarmac is normally much higher than on gravel. That means normally You can take the corner much faster. But what is problem in my opinion that while on gravel Your grip even between the best ad worse place on stages varies quite small and it is still somewhat low on tarmac it changes suddenly from huge to nothing in a fraction of a second and than another bad thing comes because it can in another fraction of second change back from nothing to huge and **** happens because You are just a human and Your reaction on loosing the grip was slower than the tyres found new and You are overreacting.

Tommeke is right that the grip changes a lot on a bad asphalt like we have in CZ or they have in Belgium but in my opinion it's very difficult to be prepared for these changes. It needs a lot of experience and part of the problem in my opinion is that thanks to this You just can drive faster than the old experienced guys because it is really physically possible but You do take a lot of risk which without the experience You are not aware of.

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Agree. One fact is also that the difference in static vs. dynamic friction between the tire and the road is much bigger with wet tarmac than with dry tarmac (or with any type of loose surface).

I don't think that the problem of asphalt rallies resides only on the high speed and the changes on the tarmac grip. I think the main problem is the spectators.

In tarmac rallies you can be really close to the stage, and at least in here Portugal (and I see movies of Spain) the public is almost on the road, not in a safe place (at least the most of it). And when something goes wrong with the car/driver, people don't start running, they get "stuck" looking to see what happen...

I think that to make safer rallies, we need to put a new mentality in rally spectators, specially on tarmac!

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Loeb with 2 wins at asphalt rallies and a second at Sardinia can reach 300 points i think

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Loeb with 2 wins at asphalt rallies and a second at Sardinia can reach 300 points i think

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Theoretically - yes. Assuming he wins remaining 3 rounds + most of PS. Ford showed some progress here, it might be difficult...

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga

I don't think that the problem of asphalt rallies resides only on the high speed and the changes on the tarmac grip. I think the main problem is the spectators.

In tarmac rallies you can be really close to the stage, and at least in here Portugal (and I see movies of Spain) the public is almost on the road, not in a safe place (at least the most of it). And when something goes wrong with the car/driver, people don't start running, they get "stuck" looking to see what happen...

I think that to make safer rallies, we need to put a new mentality in rally spectators, specially on tarmac!

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Spectators on gravel and asphalt rallies are same. In my opinion the problem is in different thing. On asphalt it is much harder to estimate the outcome of a crash especially for non-experienced people. On gravel the car behavior is quite predictable even for spectators. Crashes when cars take some very strange direction or crashing very suddenly without previous warning are rather rare compared to asphalt accidents when many of the crashes comes out of a sudden and often in very strange way. When You are in a gravel corner where 9 or 10 cars are very wide You expect someone can roll but if You are at an asphalt corner where 9 of 10 cars go like on rails or when You stand behind a small bump where 9 of 10 cars just goes straight over...

On gravel it's much more dust so guys aren't infront of the cars, they're much higher. :D

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