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Originally Posted by itix
Ott Tanak is mega slow?!?!?
And are you talking about lack of logical?...
I think he's classing Tanak under the 'always crash' part of that either/or clause...Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Ok, but Tanak and Levebvre are far from "mega slow". They could be only not as fast as some may have wishedQuote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Simon Scattolin will be new co-driver for Bertelli
Yeah, those are probably better words for what I wanted to get across.... not as fast as others in the level and class they are running, let's say!Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
And yeah, dodge33cymru is right, I class Tänak under the crash a lot section (even though he's better now than he was his first season with Ford)
I love that everybody is saying that Ott always crashes but not Meeke. Meeke had more offs this year than Ott.
Meeke-Germany,Italy,Mexico,Monte,Sweden,Finland
Ott- Wales,Monte,Mexico,Spain,Germany(small off at the beginning)- in Argentina he was unlucky to hit a rock in a watersplash and in Sardinia the car gave up.
While Meeke has more WRC starts than Ott.
Difference being that Meeke won an event, his speed was more consistent, he's strong on tarmac too, he narrowly lost out in being best non-VW in the championship and contributed to the team objective of second in the constructors. The downsides to Meeke are consistency, same as Tanak, and his age but he's done a great job of proving himself with arguably his last chance.
What´s the plan for Martin Prokop for 2016? His start at Rally Dakar prevents a start at Rally Monte Carlo, so he does WRC2 next year? Or selected rounds in the World Rally Car?
He will do Dakar and selected rounds in WRC. WRC2 is nonsense for him...Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
And World Rallycross? Prokop said he liked it very much. Could we see him in at RX circuits?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Everything is possible. But I think there is bigger chance to see him in normal circuits...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
Oh no, I am completely with you on that. Meeke had a strong finish to his season but if you ignore that, Argentina was pretty much the only rally he didn't crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by eestlane
I'd still rate Meeke higher than Ott because he was challenging the VW podium monopoly on almost every rally and Ott only on one or two.
Well that's not really true, not in realistic terms. While Meeke has more WRC starts as a whole, most of those have been in JWRC etc. Counting up on ewrc it looks like he's had 26 in an actually WRC car, while Tanak has 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by eestlane
I agree that Meeke is still in the 'crash' category, but he's also got a raw pace that I don't think we've seen from Tanak (don't get me wrong, I think Ott is a great driver and deserves a WRC drive). You can see why McRae was a fan of Meeke, he's a flat out, flat broke kind of driver.
Who said Tanak is slow is not that wrong.
Tanak has sparks of great speed that show potential, he won some stages and setted some top3 stage times. But for most of the rallys he had a not so little gap from top drivers even when he didn't crash, and also on gravel.
David Richards helping Tommi with Toyota WRC? : https://www.facebook.com/Sportautohe...42734089257733
Not sure there's something true in this however!
You have to know on which rally and stages the driver was pushing and not. If you just look at the stage times then it may look that the driver was slow. You could say that Meeke and Paddon were also slow on many rallies. Meeke in Poland for example but we know that he wasnt even trying there.
i would say Tänak was really pushing in Poland, Finland (1st and 2nd stage, hit a rock on second stage and that was it), Australia (Friday, Saturday), Spain (Day one on gravel), Portugal (Day one, made a wrong tyre choice for second day and settled in for 5th place after that).
if he would be slow then he wouldnt be in WRC :)
# WRC - Hyundai develop an ... R5 and R2!
The engineer Andrea Adamo (eg Abarth) was designated by Hyundai to participate in the development of future i20 R5 who participate in certain ERC handles with Kevin Abbring at the wheel. A Hyundai i20 R2 would also developing arrive much later.
Source: Rally.it
watch which photos liked most from wrc.com lolololol They are useless,even to choose the right photos
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/decem...medium=twitter
From Lavadinho that's not really a surprise
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This time there are Jaanus Ree's photos, next time Lavadinhos but i agree that the choice is poor, Ree has much more interesting and beautiful photos.
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Originally Posted by EstWRC
Est you know I like Tanak as a driver and I'm a bit fan of him. :) But you also confirmed what I said earlier. You mentioned 5 rallys out of 13 where he was very much fast and only some stages (or only one day) of them. I said he has sparks of speed but he's not (or not yet) a [completely] fast driver.
And of course when I say "slow" I mean in comparison to WRC drivers, not in general. ;)
I think it's implied that it's comparative. "slow for a WRC driver", not "slow driver".Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think Tanak is quite quick, but I believe Meeke is quicker
A recent interview with John Kennard
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsp...y-heights.html
FIA World Rally Championship
From 2016, WRC Organisers will be obliged to undertake the environmental certification process provided by the FIA before the event visa is delivered.
The 2016 WRC calendar was also confirmed:
22-24 January Monte Carlo
12-14 February Sweden
4-6 March Mexico
22-24 April Argentina
20-22 May Portugal
10-12 June Italy
1-3 July Poland
29-31 July Finland
19-21 August Germany
9-11 September China
30 September – 2 October France
14-16 October Spain
28-30 October Great Britain
18-20 November Australia
FIA Rally Commission
The World Motor Sport Council approved the implementation of a one-hour penalty for any missed stage except for super special stages, where a seven-minute penalty will apply. This is to ensure that competitors running in all stages will always be classified of those that miss a stage.
The format of the FIA European Rally Trophy (ERT) has been amended with the main category being for R5/S2000 cars, ERT 2 for NR4 cars, ERT 3 for two-wheel drive cars, and a Junior Trophy for drivers born on or after 1 January 1989. The ERT will be organised in eight European area trophy competitions. The three highest scoring competitors in each area, and category, will compete in a Final that will be hosted by a different country each year. The winners of the Trophy Finals will be the winners of their respective ERT category.
You'd almost think they're reading this forum. Nice decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Interesting so that basically puts any end to anyone scoring driver championship points after an off.
Seems like the biggest motivators for drivers returning are manufacturer points and gaining experience - so I don't think it changes too much.
In truth, they really didn't need to do this - it should have been 'miss a stage and you automatically finish behind all those who completed the event'. But it seems as if common sense has broken out.
Always seems wrong to me if the season doesn't start in Monte and end with GB. Without the miserable weather GB just becomes a quite tame gravel event and offers none of the challenge that it should. Also doesn't seem right that the great stages of New Zealand and the car testing stages of Greece are left out, but I suppose it gives the chance for new countries to be included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Jonas Andersson has quit as Mads Østberg's co-driver and signed a deal with Even Management.
http://www.tv2.no/2015/12/02/sport/m.../rally/7735043
Mads is surprised (to say the least) and currently looking for a replacement for the 2016 season.
Wait until you see the ones from Lavadinho...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Should maybe open a chance for Emil Bergkvist as development driver there then.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
We wish... But i doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micke_VOC
Also we are in the wrong forum section for these discussions
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Originally Posted by EightGear
Only for Asia-Pasific championship?
The World Motor Sport Council approved the implementation of a one-hour penalty for any missed stage except for super special stages, where a seven-minute penalty will apply in the FIA Asia-Pacific Rally Championship. This is to ensure that competitors running in all stages will always be classified of those that miss a stage.
Only 7 minute penalty in the Asia-Pasific. 1 hour for the other championships.
Here is the original text from FIA:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
http://www.fia.com/news/fia-announce...il-decisions-0
There is no mention of WRC for this change, its for Asia Pacific championship.
Makes more sense that it was for the APRC, wasn't Tidemand 45min ahead of 2nd in the last rally when Gill retired?Quote:
Originally Posted by tc10a
Only APRC as i read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
Seven minute penalty for super special stages, one hour for the other steages.
Jonas Andersson teaming up with Pontus