Three Hyundais i20 R5 on Tour de Corse - for Kevin Abbring, Stéphane Sarrazin and Fabio Andolfi.
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Three Hyundais i20 R5 on Tour de Corse - for Kevin Abbring, Stéphane Sarrazin and Fabio Andolfi.
Suarez is damn fast, but he’s still on ‘overdrive’ mode. He really could use Lundefaret as a coach!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Neil Simspon with his Fabia R5 at my local Promenade Stages rally this weekend...
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Times: http://catalyst.users37.interdns.co....tMonitor&id=55
Why Mirage R5 doesn't have a rear wing like the other cars..?
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Asked that on the project's facebook page, they said that "They have to be removed to comply with UK MSA Category 2 regulations."Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
wednesday test photos from italy:
https://www.facebook.com/fotoModlic/...54498615802733
There's a new interview with János Tóth before Rally Košice, and he said some interesting things of the 208: http://www.duen.hu/hirek/celba_erni_az_elen_celba_erni
-they struggled with the car as it reacts very differently to setup changes than the other cars ("nothing works on it the way like on a normal car"), but when Andreucci was called to a test, he started them on a good direction and now the car is good on tarmac;
-this wasn't helped by the fact that few teams race this car, so Peugeot Sport can't give much good info;
-they started using the long ratio, but he feels that you still have to drive the car more like a S2000 and not like a "Gr.A turbo car";
-and finally a quote of the problems: "A car has certain capabilities, and so have engineers. And when a not so good engineer designs the rear suspension, the drivers are not happy... The car is very sensitive to the setup, it takes a long time to find a good one."
Interesting to hear that from a driver.. you can see the car doesn't have the torque of the other R5s and that the rear end is very loose.
For sure it has different engine characteristics than other R5, less torque, so you need to rev it higher. With that I agree. But in my opinion it reacts on setup changes more or less like every other rally or race car. Of course there is totally no setup feedback from Peugeot or Citroen, but that's quite normal, similar with M-Sport, etc. All their base setups are almost useless.
Br21 can you explain me why the factory doesn't give to the customers the set up of the official drivers?of course it is not always useful since a customer may has different driving style and the conditions maybe are different(and maybe other tyres). i am sure that this data cannot be used from a rival company since theιr car will not responds the same way to setup changes.All the privateers complaining for not taking setup data from the factory teams apart from the basics which is basically zero.
It's very valuable know-how. I find it perfectly logical that they keep it secret.
of course it valuable but you give it to a customer that drives your car,and if he delivers good results then its good for the firm and for the motorsport departement.
That's not so simple.
Almost no factory is giving their setups. Lot of their "customer setups" are not useable... But support in all from Citroen Racing/Peugeot Sport is one of the worst in actual rally scene...
HMI - Hyundai Team @hmirally 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες
The 1st Hyundai New Generation i20 R5 arrived today in @hmirally http://hmirally.com #rally #hmi #hyundai #i20R5 #hmirally
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Is the i20 already homologated? Sarrazin is on the entry list of next weekend national French Cup rally: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-eng...fayence-2016/#
Also some speculation about Proton’s R5, from a Malaysian site: http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...p?p=1064671265
I think it's homologated from 1st September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Vauxhall Junior boss Simon Mauger to drive Spencer Sport Mitsubishi R5 on the Jersey Rally. The Mirage down the lanes will be cool! https://t.co/2fi1Z1SQzI
According to Rallye-Sport.fr, Peugeot Sport is currently having a development test in Vosges with an Evo 208, drivers are Suárez and Gilbert.
Edit: Citroën is there with a DS3 too. Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOq5YpDkV3o
Peugeot Sport should invite and learn from PS Italia technicians, as they seem to be the only ones able to turn that junk into a competitive rally car...Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Stéphane Sarrazin @Steph_Sarrazin 9 ώρεςΠριν από 9 ώρες
First test day With the Hyundai R5 to prepare @TourdeCorseWRC Thanks to @KCMGComposites @8starmotor @Michelin_Sport
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From what I read, mostly they were trying to make the new power steering work, but according to the article it already failed during the first morning. What I noticed is that they were using an oil cooler for the power steering again, and the car had a bit different sound, so maybe new exhaust as well? Time will tell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
But also Andreucci is loosing against Fiesta R5&Fabia R5....let's wait for this weekend (rally Roma).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Fiesta R5 no.181 has arrived in Norway, that's R5's worth 42 mill euro sold by M-Sport Ltd !
I find it slightly odd that a current Toyota Factory driver is giving another Manufacturer's car a first competitive outing....
and other Toyota Factory driver is driving Skoda R5.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
ofcourse in both cases car from private team, but still...
That's new for me!
Toyota Vitz (Yaris) on Rally Hokkaydo on FIA APRC entry list.
The car looks like the S2000 but with turbo engine. Could be a new R5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjhW3jqdXE
No wonder M-Sport is earning millions on Fiestas R5. For example, this weekend in Rally Hedemark, the last round of Norwegian championship, there are 8 R5 cars competing. All of them are Ford Fiestas:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlis...edemarken-2016
I don't know. Nobody has ever heard about this car. Even the official Japanese Toyota drivers are using Fords :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
http://www.pirelliralli.fi/wp-conten...toluettelo.pdf
Speaking of Finland, Juha Salo has just won Finnish Rally Campionship. Could it be the biggest success of Peugeot 208 T16 this year?
http://www.moottoriurheilu.tv/wp-con...e_turkusm2.jpg
If Andreucci won't win the title in Italy or Riedemann in Germany, then most likely so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
That's an AP4 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
http://fiaaprc.com/2016/03/cusco-expand-2016/
Similar to cars built in NZ by Force Motorsport. The class is designed for the niche created between R5 and group N in the Asia Pacific area.
Other cars designed for the class but not yet compliant are :
Hyundai i20 AP4 - http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/jsl191.html
Mazda 2 AP4 - http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/htq248.html
Also the Inky Skoda AP4+
http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/jhb976.html
And GM Barinas under construction
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/fabie-na-czele,70820 (Sumiyama vitz ap4)
Videos of Quentin Gilbert's DS3 R5 development test:
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https://youtu.be/blRwTq4CuCY
https://youtu.be/mQKKFkKLRdk
The main advantage from AP4 rules (like those of MR or N5) is to allow private teams to build and homologate competitive rally cars at more affordable prices. This way the sport doesn’t get hostage of manus lack of interest and rally costumers can get a wider and cheaper choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by leighton323
It’s a shame that in Europe cars like the Mirage R5 (and probably MEM’s future Iriz R5) won’t be allowed to run alongside similar cars made by manus tuners, simply because they’re not official projects.
Eventually, Sarrazin entered Pays de Fayence Rally only as a 0 car. Homologation issues or team option?
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Photo: forum-rallye.com
Yes, what a disappointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Video from Pays de Fayence Rally can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPm6GAQ1qSY
EWrc and other data rally sites have it, but why not try to make our own 2016 national champs (mostly R5’s) record on the European national champs thread? First entry (France) already there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
i20 R5 of Andolfi ready for TdC ...
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Is Toyota working for a R5 project now?