People Power

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Yep!

Many others have done it. Why can't they?

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Why not go there for yourself, ask them and find out? Or do you know the answer already from the comfort of your chair?

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Absolutely. Watch the headlines today. "Rudy slams Bono for populism, insists on shutting him up."

I find it interesting, though, that these people went all the way to the upper steps of the social ladder and now criticise the modern day vices and problems standing on piles of money.

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Does having money preclude people from commenting on social problems, or suddenly make them shiny happy people? I don't understand what point you are making. If everyone just sung about how rich they are as soon as they make it big their lyrics would be of no artistic merit.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

I find it interesting, though, that these people went all the way to the upper steps of the social ladder and now criticise the modern day vices and problems standing on piles of money.

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Having a lot of money does not automatically propel one 'to the upper steps of the social ladder'.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Having a lot of money does not automatically propel one 'to the upper steps of the social ladder'.

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Your society is who you rub shoulders with. Check the pics from the Wiki article on Bono. Looks quite upscale to me.

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Does having money preclude people from commenting on social problems, or suddenly make them shiny happy people?

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I am talking about emotional connection, first of all. I believe an artist has to be able to emotionally relate to what he writes about, at least to a certain extent, to keep his integrity. Otherwise his art is just commercial crap with zero honesty. I don't quite see how somebody can live a posh life and still be on the same page emotionally with les miserables of this world.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Having a lot of money does not automatically propel one 'to the upper steps of the social ladder'.

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Yes you are correct Ben, if I were rich you could look up the word "Dirty old Man with many Latin Women" and you would see my picture. My yacht would be named "Cum Tank" Cohiba and Benziger Winery would deliver weekly.
I would finally play enough golf to shoot my age. And I would not have enough time to even piss on the social ladder.

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

I'm sure many of us in this forum can also talk about our professional/economical successes in life that have come to us by our hard work, responsibility, commitment, desire, etc.

Some of us are practicing our professions by having gone through the "higher education" route or by learning it "on the job".

Bottom line is that like many, many others out there that NOW want what we achieved and that are equally hard working, committed and responsible people, the fact is that for them, at this moment of time - there are LESS OPPORTUNITIES out there.

It's a fact.

Something that is constantly mentioned on this side of the pond is that parents of college bound children are told not to get rid of their children's rooms because there is a 80% possibility that their children would return to those rooms after graduating because of lack of work opportunities for many, many professionals out there - *sorry, no link - just what I heard on the telly - so it must be true ;)

It's tough out there and the economic climate does not look promising.

Oh, and add to that, those professional sons and daughters that are returning to their childhood rooms, also are carrying with them a large college debt.

Nice way to start climbing that proverbial ladder. :dozey:

Something is definitely wrong with this picture - ergo, there is a problem that has to be solved.

Oh, and something else, many of the occupy protesters are those students and graduates that are living this reality and do not want to take it any more. They know they have the power to create change.

Occupy Dammit!!! :)

:s mokin:

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Easy solution. People should stop having so many bloody kids!

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Why not go there for yourself, ask them and find out? Or do you know the answer already from the comfort of your chair?

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See post #1010

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Originally Posted by chuck34

So what do you do? Outlaw outsourcing of jobs? Then are you willing to pay $80-$100 for a pair of jeans?

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Funny thing is that's exactly what I pay for a pair of jeans! That only means that no matter where and how cheap the jeans are produced, we will always pay the price for them, it's just the profits of the jeans producing companies that feel the difference.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Inequality (see thread for evidence it exists and the effects it has) in society as a whole is not a problem?

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You know what's worst?
It's when someone from a poor family gets on top of the others and starts marching all over them just like it happened to him/her back in the day. :down: