I think active center since Evo VII and active rear since Evo IX?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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I think active center since Evo VII and active rear since Evo IX?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
active rear from evo 4 to evo XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
active center from evo 7 to evo X
They most definitely have an active centre diff. Google it...
http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo...everybody.html
http://www.coordsport.com/blog/2012/...commendations/
The Mitsubishi R5 features a 1620cc engine based on the Mitsubishi 4B11 engine from the Evolution X. It is connected to a five-speed Sadev transmission and four-wheel-drive system of the type homologated for use in the R5 category and fitted to all other R5 rally cars.
Engine:
4-cyl, 16v, transverse 1620cc.
Garrett turbo with 32mm restrictor
Gems ECU
Power/Torque:
280 hp (approx) @ 7500rpm
450 Nm (approx) @ 7500rpm
Transmission:
Sadev 5-speed sequential
Mechanical diff front & rear with AP coupling
Suspension:
MacPherson strut, all-round
Öhlins dampers
Docal subframes
Brakes:
AP 4-pot front & rear
Ventilated disks: asphalt 355mm / Gravel & Snow 300mm
Wheels:
Asphalt: 18 x 8'' / Gravel: 15 x 7" / Snow: 16 x 5"
Dimensions:
Length: 3740mm
Width: 1820mm
Height: 1490mm (depending on set up)
Wheelbase: 2470mm
Weight: 1230kgs (min)
http://mitsubishir5.com/technical.html
How on earth did I miss this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
I should burn my engineering degree and commit suicide out of shame!
Did you notice that in the third post of the evolution.net link have a link to a pdf which describe the drivetrain. In the most right text box on the upper part say that evo 3 and 4 had a viscous coupling and from evo 5 an active one.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...tid%3D70736%20
Here’s a link to AYC document about the development.
http://media.cylex-uk.co.uk/companie...r_AYC_spec.pdf
I have also (February 2008) downloaded an document of the development of the ACD but I couldn’t find it on internet anymore.
Those figures cannot be right. 450 Nm @ 7500 rpm equals approximately 474 hp. The torque figure quoted must be at a much lower engine speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I suspect some technical illiterate in a marketing department has put maximum power, maximum torque & maximum rpm together on the Mitsubishi R5 web page in a way they were not originally specified.
Yes, that's clear nonsense but since the publically presented power and torque figures are never true I doubt many people on this board bother to read them at all :)
From Italian thread - Luca Rossetti testing i20 R5 on gravel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzYig13EWM
maybe Italian hyundai importer has any to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
dont remember to have read that Rosseti had any connection with Hyundai.
Maybe they quickly had to find a replacement for Abbring because he's in Finland now.
Hyundai marketin department working. They are sending invatations for known drivers to Test i20 R5.
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The Hyundai i20 R5 is the object of desire of pilots Championship of Spain. The main protagonists of the National are trying to get a unit of the Korean car for next season. And five of them, Miguel Fuster, Ivan Ares, Pedro Burgo, Surhayen Pernia and Manuel Mora, they will try tomorrow and in France.
Hyundai Motorsport has organized a test for potential customers on a stretch of asphalt in Chamberlain. The new i20 R5 will be marketed after the summer, and the international demand have decided to mount this test attended by five Spanish. The car debuted at Ypres Rally European Championship with Kevin Abbring driving as VIP car, and it seems that their times were very encouraging, as they dominated the first stage (there was no official lap times when a car caravan security) .
And not just the Spanish riders are interested in the new Hyundai i20 R5. There are several teams that are vying to make it run at the National asphalt. This is the case of Auto Laca (the formation of Angel Ramos with several national titles), All Racing Sport (which currently does run the Opel), Past Racing (the team of Daniel Alonso, who wants to buy two units), ACSM or equipment Ivan Ares. Vallejo Racing also has groped the possibility of switching to Hyundai.
http://motor.as.com/motor/2016/08/01...o_rsoc=comp_tw
Łukasz Pieniążek @pieniazekrally
I can’t wait! #Hyundai #R5 #test
I'm afraid you are right. Lukasz Pieniazek is going to test Hyundai i20 R5 in Metz very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Pieniazek and Abbring .At Frech forum they wrote that tomorrow Princen will drive.
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1470151466.jpg
He was there already todayQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Isn't it the good old Patrick Snijers? :)
More info on the Hyundai R5 http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/motor...ally-programme
Higher torque on the R5... fantasy?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiil
Oh yes, this statement is pretty much nonsensical in every possible way and it shows that the author doesn't know much about what he's writting. He just coppies some BS presented by some other guys with no knowledge about the stuff (PR department).
Quote:
The result is an output of 285bhp compared to 300bhp for the WRC car but there’s an increase in torque from 295lb ft in the WRC car to 310lb ft in the R5. That should improve flexibility slightly and make the R5 easier to drive.
It seems a bit low, but if that €180.000 price indication it's correct it'll certainly have a strong impact on R5's market.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiil
Pedro Burgo, one of the spanish drivers invited to test the i20, said it has a better engine than the 208's he use to drive.
Btw, PSA R5's did well in Madeira. I don't know if Fontes (Sports & You DS) is already using the Evo kit, but Camacho had one on his 208 Delta rented car. He earlier complained about the steering, but after some setup adjustments he was more at ease and managed to get on the win fight with Magalhaes (Fiesta Evo from P&B Racing) and Fontes.
Fontes used Evo kit. Major giveaway is that the radiator and intercooler are tilted backwards, whereas on the old version they are tilted forward. Also, on the Evo DS3 the air intake opening is removed from the front bumber's emblem area, and now it's in an identical layout to the 208.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Biggest difference is size of radiator and intercooler, angle of their mounting is not that much different, also intake area is very similar, as bumper is exactly the same. On fast stages it's not that big difference in temperatures, it makes difference on slow and twisty stages, with high temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Kalle Rovanpera test with r5 skoda in Finland.Think we havent see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMXU3wruZxM
Fiesta R5 of P&B only have mechanical EVO, old chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Hyundai i20 R5 -> 180.000€ + 25.000€ gravel kit
Ford Fiesta R5 -> 183.600€ + 20.500€ gravel kit
New face-lift version of Mitsubishi Mirage R5 is going to make its debut in the Ulster Rally. Garry Jennings will be driving the car and the event takes place on 19th & 20th August:
http://spencersport.co.uk/spencer-sp...-ulster-rally/
there is no brand new factory R5 car to buy for 180k euros. All the cars, in tarmac OR gravel spec cost over 210k euros.
Also Fiesta Evo is same body as older version. Only "evo" changes are engine plus some small suspension parts difference (stronger than older spec) plus rear spoiler mounting modification, etc.
Info of M-Sport that prize.
Second, there is EVO of chassis after L Racing unit (first one).
When is Kalle old enough to drive international events? Skoda might need one or two new drivers next year..Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Why do they need new drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
We bought 3 cars from them, I know the price:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
With more WRC seats becoming available it looks likely they will lose at least one of Lappi and Tidemand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
With the current £ value?
There was an interview with János Tóth and his codriver, Tamás Szőke, in which they touched on why they had many problems this year, especially on gravel: http://motorsport.reblog.hu/visszaterhet-e-a-csucsra-a-hetszeres-bajnok-ifj-toth-janos
Tóth said that the 208 T16 is interesting to drive on gravel, especially on low-grip surfaces, as it tends to oversteer even with low speed, but when the grip is good/high, it becomes much easier to drive.
Szőke was very critical, saying that Peugeot Sport cares too much about the Dakar program, and in the meantime the R5 gets very limited attention, and is falling behind the competition in WRC and ERC as well.
That is interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Jennings being a very quick and experienced driver of the Irish Tarmac Championship should be an ideal pilot to show how good the Mirage is on the asphalt.
The only issue against him is he is still driving an Impreza WRC in the ITC so wont be used to an R5 car...
R5 are generally relatively easy cars to drive. All drivers here who switched from WRC to R5 were immediately fast. The best example is Martin Vlček who switched from Fabia WRC to Fiesta R5 and with only a very short test finished Rally Bohemia on podium which was his best ever result there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC