[WRC] Rally Portugal 2023

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14th May 2023, 00:05
1988senna

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Tänaks confirming to Delfi what I wrote here earlier, the wooden horse effect.

It’s down to the suspension and the rougher the stages are the worse it is, first passes are okay but second ones not and they are getting slower than faster.

Says there is nothing to do cause the suspension is locked (he means linked between the events I guess)

The reporter asks is there a opportunity to find a faster setup or car for tomorrow and Tänaks answers the fastest way is to airport at the moment

what's the PET means and how to understand the wooden horse effect
14th May 2023, 00:25
J4MIE

Solberg given a minute penalty for his donut

https://app-cdn.sportity.com/e46a888...20No.%2016.pdf
14th May 2023, 04:11
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4MIE

Solberg given a minute penalty for his donut

https://app-cdn.sportity.com/e46a888...20No.%2016.pdf

Fabulous. Maybe this year's WRC2 title will be.decided in the stewards room.

At least it should make today exciting, Oliver will need around 0.5s/km on Gus today to get the first place back.
14th May 2023, 05:33
EstWRC

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14th May 2023, 06:07
EstWRC

[WRC] Rally Portugal 2023

Tänaks hybrid not working and Thierry has no power or some gearbox problems
14th May 2023, 06:17
Tauri_J

I’d take Ott’s problems over Thierry’s in a heartbeat.
14th May 2023, 06:18
meh

Now comes 2 the most boring stages in Rally1 field - I think Hyundai going to freeze the situation and it's cruising to PowerStage where Rovanperä takes 5 points...
14th May 2023, 06:18
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4MIE

Solberg given a minute penalty for his donut

https://app-cdn.sportity.com/e46a888...20No.%2016.pdf

This rally is a joke in many ways, right now.
14th May 2023, 06:20
meh

and stagewin for Taka
14th May 2023, 06:23
EstWRC

Now that Thierry dropped to 5th

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...58b4a24e51.jpg
14th May 2023, 06:23
meh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

This rally is a joke in many ways, right now.

(Context 1min time-penalty for Solberg because of donuts)
In a way it's idiotic. The same way it's idiotic to do this if it's written to the regulation.
14th May 2023, 06:35
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by meh

In a way it's idiotic. The same way it's idiotic to do this if it's written to the regulation.

I wrote "in many ways"...

However they had some three or more SSS for the show, so.. and there seems to be margins for the punishment, so one minute instead of five gives you a slight idea how rules are handled...

Besides that, the whole WRC-circus should reconsider how rules should be on Sunday stages. My advice is 3-2-1 points on every stage on Sunday.
14th May 2023, 06:41
Kras

This is one of the most boring rallyes I've watched
14th May 2023, 06:44
Kras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

I wrote "in many ways"...

However they had some three or more SSS for the show, so.. and there seems to be margins for the punishment, so one minute instead of five gives you a slight idea how rules are handled...

Besides that, the whole WRC-circus should reconsider how rules should be on Sunday stages. My advice is 3-2-1 points on every stage on Sunday.

I think that they should make every loop a competition by awarding additional points for drivers fastest over the loop. Maybe excluding the first day
14th May 2023, 06:46
Tauri_J

Points for every stage
14th May 2023, 06:53
masa90

As fun as power stage is sometimes, surely it ruins some sundays. This rally started as really exciting, but Surely turnee out bit boring. Even as a Kalle fan, I hope others catch up a bit and that he would not just dominate.
14th May 2023, 06:55
CeskyOndra

It is difficult, when he is driving Toyota..
14th May 2023, 07:20
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by masa90

As fun as power stage is sometimes, surely it ruins some sundays. This rally started as really exciting, but Surely turnee out bit boring. Even as a Kalle fan, I hope others catch up a bit and that he would not just dominate.

Once again, i don't understand why they don't give fresh tyres for PS?
14th May 2023, 07:24
Katvala

Kalle...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e27eec661b.jpg

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14th May 2023, 07:34
EstWRC

Hybrid still not working for Tänak

Can they touch it later in the regroup area?
14th May 2023, 07:42
Kras

No turbo Neuville doing his best Jourdan impression
14th May 2023, 07:50
meh

On the reliability topic - if everyone blame _only_ M-Sport/Ford for reliability issues, then make notes - others, Toyota (Takamoto) and Hyundai (Neuville) have them as well.
14th May 2023, 07:52
Rallyper

Oliver should´ve had a fine.
14th May 2023, 07:53
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by meh

On the reliability topic - if everyone blame _only_ M-Sport/Ford for reliability issues, then make notes - others, Toyota (Takamoto) and Hyundai (Neuville) have them as well.

Most certainly, but M-Sport seems to encounter reliability issues more frequently (just my gut feeling, I have no data).
14th May 2023, 07:56
meh

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Most certainly, but M-Sport seems to encounter reliability issues more frequently (just my gut feeling, I have no data).

I remember one phrase "the quality is amazing" on the Hyundai direction.

I don't say that M-Sport has good reliability, but sometimes feels in this forum, that only M-Sport has issues and others not, so I just pointed it out :)
14th May 2023, 08:05
EstWRC

Virves crashed on ss16

Not the best season so far I have to say. Speed also jumping up and down
14th May 2023, 08:17
seb_sh

Quote:

Originally Posted by meh

I remember one phrase "the quality is amazing" on the Hyundai direction.

I don't say that M-Sport has good reliability, but sometimes feels in this forum, that only M-Sport has issues and others not, so I just pointed it out :)

The difference is that the other cars are sometimes reliable, MSport have problems every day.
14th May 2023, 08:35
Kras

The fact that hybrid not working seems to have so little effect on stage times is embarassing for FIA.

I think that cars would gain more from weight reduction if they took it out of the car than from hybrid boost itself
14th May 2023, 08:39
EstWRC

I don’t get why Tänak is going that fast in this stage
14th May 2023, 08:45
Kras

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

I don’t get why Tänak is going that fast in this stage

Maybe hes hoping for Lappi or Sordo getting a puncture, which coupled with him pushing could get him up a position
14th May 2023, 08:50
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kras

The fact that hybrid not working seems to have so little effect on stage times is embarassing for FIA.

I think that cars would gain more from weight reduction if they took it out of the car than from hybrid boost itself

And you cant blame M-Sport for this 'reliability' issue.
14th May 2023, 08:50
Dontcut

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

I don’t get why Tänak is going that fast in this stage

He is not getting big points because of sleeping hybrid. Worn tyres are least of his problems.
14th May 2023, 08:52
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dontcut

He is not getting big points because of sleeping hybrid. Worn tyres are least of his problems.

Disagree.

I think he can even get 4 points without the hybrid on PS stage. Sordo doesnt need the points, so he has to battle only Taka and Lappi for the second place on PS stage
14th May 2023, 08:53
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

I don’t get why Tänak is going that fast in this stage

In case Neuville's issue went away.
14th May 2023, 08:56
seb_sh

Sordo very disappointed that Neuville has problems and now they can't do the tactics to give his place away and he is forced to take 2nd place. :P
14th May 2023, 09:01
RS

Why are we not seeing WRC2 crews on this stage? PS is two hours away..
14th May 2023, 09:02
CeskyOndra

Neuville was already loosing 2 minutes to Tanak before this stage, so no reason to push for Ott
14th May 2023, 09:02
Rallyper

Now when only competition is WRC2, they just let it go. Man!! :( :(
14th May 2023, 09:03
Kras

Again the Pirelli guy with "a lotova loose stona"
14th May 2023, 09:03
Jakem

Quote:

Originally Posted by seb_sh

Sordo very disappointed that Neuville has problems and now they can't do the tactics to give his place away and he is forced to take 2nd place. :P

Team “Neuville” has failed 10 years…;)

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