For this year it is different. Each team (if they are registered) can nominate two drivers for WRC2 Teams Championship. Everybody, who wants to score points in WRC2 for driver (WRC2 Open) must make also individual registration.
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For this year it is different. Each team (if they are registered) can nominate two drivers for WRC2 Teams Championship. Everybody, who wants to score points in WRC2 for driver (WRC2 Open) must make also individual registration.
Agreed! Point is: must they enter also as a personal team (spending 3k +10k) or can they join a registered team as 3rd+ driver (spending 3k as individual entry)?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Where do you read that out now?Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
Earlier here from page 30 on -see posts like #307 i.e.-. I'm just rounding up the countless previous post of the last few days. go back a couple of pages, you see all these debates revolves around a) is a team limited to entering only 2 car? and so b) does a driver (say one doing wrc3 last year) have to enter his own team?Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit12
We kinda sorted out some, still those questions hang around...
Thisnis really mindblowing
I'm not sure it's been said, but the World Rally Car won't have restrictions applied for 2022 as was widely believed, other than drivers who've scored manufacturers points in past 5 years can't drive them. This immediately rules Mikkelsen, Suninen, Paddon, Ostberg etc out, but maybe there is somebody out there willing to race for a win against the Rally1s if they don't perform and if they can get hold of a WRC. I'm not sure the owners club will be racing.
Wider question, who's likely to be seen in a WRC in 2022?
I thought there would be a restrictor…Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Yes, very odd indeed. I don't see any logical explanation for the current situation, something's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I still don't really understand how these WRC2 entries work.
My understanding is that:
When team wants to compete in WRC2 Teams, they have to pay 10K fee. They have to have 2 drivers, but they don't have to pay anything, IF they wouldn't compete in driver's championship (WRC2 Open) . But they still can compete in driver's championship, if they pay 3K fee.
But if driver wants to compete in WRC2 Open (so driver's championship), they only need to pay 3K and don't have to compete for team.
Is that right?
I don’t understand it like this…Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The line between the rules and what goes is blurred, and also whether these rules are what was agreed. I don't believe the season will start without at least one rule being corrected. Probably best to email the rally department if you're thinking of running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
The rules say drivers don't have to compete in the team's championship, but a registered team has to enter the driver if the driver wants to score in the open championship. Driver's don't appear to have to be registered in the open Championship to score for the teams, but all drivers do have to pay €3000 registration fees (table, p102). Drivers don't have to be entered by a team to score in the WRC2 Masters Cup but these drivers do have to be registered in the WRC2 Open Championship in which they won't score unless they were entered by a team. The Masters Cup is an additional €3000 registration.
So registration for a driver who just wants to drive alone in the open championship is €3000 plus €10,000 for their own team to enter themselves in. A loophole-type flaw here has been discussed over several recent pages, which I believe is against the rules but was allowed last year.
Hopefully bandit12 will explain it clearer, or banish us to a new thread.
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Dia de los inocentes (like April fool).
M-Sport Ford’s Gus Greensmith is convinced the World Rally Championship’s Rally1 hybrid machines will prove to be “quite a lot faster” than the previous generation of cars.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/g...utm_content=uk
Østberg’s co-driver Eriksen to partner WRC2 rival Mikkelsen in 2022
Long-time gravel crew member Patrik Barth will navigate for Østberg next year
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ostbe...elsen-in-2022/
I didn´t see that coming...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
2021 WRC2 driver and co-driver champions now in the same car :D
I guess it's only logical given that Andres has a drive and Mads doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Allegedly Citroen are done with him....
Haven't seen this but it is entirely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Biggest reason: Rossel won WRC3 and is going to WRC2 and is French + Camilli doing great in Spain
On top of that his post Estonia/pre Acropolis comments. Historically PSA manus don't like that sort of thing at all.
If true it's a bit surprising Gryazin isn't driving for Citroen then though.
So first start of the year Mikkelsen will do with... Floene :) In Dakar.
WOWQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
https://lookcharms.com/a-mikkelsen-l...of-dakar-2022/
It doesn’t seem like Ostberg will not be with Citroen next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Personnally, I think the difference is more that Mikkelsen is not totally outside of the Rally1 game (And is paid by Skoda probably and maybe has some backing from Red Bull still) whereas, for Ostberg, it is over for Rally1.
Maybe more All Live work for Mads, and a few favorite rallies here and there. Maybe developmemt consultant for Proton and Hyundai for their RC2 cars.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/w...-2023/7076702/
The World Rally Championship could return to Argentina next year after new FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem said talks to bring the championship back to South America are underway.
Rally Argentina has been absent from the WRC schedule since 2019, with the proposed 2020 event cancelled due to the COVID-19 health crisis.
As the world continues to grapple with the pandemic, the WRC has tended to steer away from flyaway events. South America wasn't represented on a 2021 schedule that only featured one round outside of Europe, Kenya's Safari Rally.
This year the WRC has revealed a 13-round calendar featuring long haul events in New Zealand and Japan, but again South America is absent from the schedule. One round in August is yet to be confirmed, although it is widely believed to be filled by Rally Northern Ireland.
Rally Argentina boasts a storied history, having regularly featured on the WRC calendar since 1980, with only the 1995 and 2010 editions absent from the world championship.
Speaking at the Dakar Rally, former Rally Argentina competitor Sulayem revealed that the FIA is negotiating with promoters in Argentina and a 2023 return of the tough gravel event is not out of the question.
"Yes, we are negotiating," said the new FIA president when asked if Argentina could return to the WRC calendar in 2023.
"First of all, I drove in Argentina a few times so I have good memories there, in terms of accepting the motorsport, and also the results that I have, so it's always good memories.
"Argentina is a big country. Argentina has a culture of motorsport and rallying in particular, more than that we have to have a more dialogue with the promoter, with the ASN, [which] is very important.
"We have to have stability, sustainability of the events. I'm studying the contracts, and when it comes to how many years we are having with the contracts, with the promoters.
"But if you bring the WRC to Argentina, it's not new. It has been there. So we just have to work something that has to come from itself, from the government, and the FIA and the promoter.
"So we'll see. Water doesn't go uphill, it goes downhill, so it has to come from the government. I believe the government has big history and involvement also with rallying and specifically rallying."
The WRC will begin its new Rally1 hybrid era later this month when the 2022 season begins at the famous Monte Carlo Rally from 20-23 January.
https://www.rallit.fi/rallin-mm-sarj...-kotisohvalta/
The WRC 2022 season launch is hosted by Red Bull on 15th January. Also streamed from Red Bull TV.
https://www.redbull.com/ng-en/events...-season-launch
I wonder if there could be a clash between Red Bull as WRC Promoter and 'Team Solberg' being sponsored by Monster Energy ? If Oliver was to start winning events with Monster plastered on his car it surely wouldn't please RB...
Eddie, not a problem. Hyundai has got Shell in their name and so on, yet no conflict with Wolf Lubricants who have a deal with the promoter.
It's not Red Bull Rally Championship.
It's not been a problem yet, but as it has become the Pirelli World Rally Championship who knows what's next.
It hasn't stopped WRC Promoter using Oliver for almost every single TV programme as being the 'next great hope' so far... They barely leave him alone. Given his sometimes shambolic season in 2021, it almost been too much...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Besides, Red Bull have a long history of not caring about rival sponsorship at 'their' events. Many X-Fighters and other motorcross riders are often sponsored by other drinks.
Red Bull TV give big coverage to other sponsored drivers / riders in Dakar too
As above, there are plenty of rival drinks companies who get good coverage on Red Bull TV; I don't think it's an issue.......
Ott Tanak is confident he will be able to “fight hard” for success in the 2022 World Rally Championship despite Hyundai’s late start in developing its new Rally1 machine.
The 2019 world champion endured a frustrating 2021 campaign claiming more stage wins than any of his rivals, but witnessed victories slip from his grasp due to reliability issues.
Tanak, who missed last year’s final round in Monza due to personal reasons, is eager to kick off the 2022 season which presents a fresh start, courtesy of the WRC’s embracing hybrid technology as part of new Rally1 regulations.
Although Hyundai was the last of the three marques to commit to the 2022 rules, Tanak has been impressed by the work undergone to create and develop the all-new i20, that is set to take on Toyota and M-Sport Ford, beginning at the Monte Carlo Rally on the 20-23 January.
The Korean brand was also the last team to unveil the final iteration of its car, which only began testing in late November. The operation is also without a permanent team principal following Andrea Adamo’s departure last month.
“Let’s say the last two years have not been too successful, so for sure it is a good chance for me to work with the guys and put a good strong car together,” Tanak, who finished fifth in the 2021 standings, told Motorsport.com.
“It is good to see at the moment, and even if we started a bit late and a being a bit behind in our development, that the people are still working hard. I’m sure we can fight hard this year.
“There is really no idea what is the gap [to the opposition] or what the situation is at the moment. It is really challenging for everyone.
“We have been focussing on our own job and as long as we are happy with what we have done, we should be proud. If we keep working and try to achieve our goals, and if we can do that, then I’m sure we are going to be strong.
“It [the car] is slowly getting there. The potential is there and it seems to be a good package, so we just need to learn and understand where the window is for this car and how it is working.”
Hyundai alongside rivals Toyota and M-Sport face a voyage into the unknown at Monte Carlo with reliability a huge concern for all the teams as their brand new hybrid cars tackle the challenging asphalt stages for the first time.
Not only will the use of hybrid power provide a challenge, but the cars will also run with significantly less aero and reduced suspension travel, and without a centre differential, courtesy of the new rules.
Such are the unknowns surrounding the cars, Tanak believes reliability will be more important than outright performance in Monte Carlo.
“To start the year reliability will be crucial,” he added.
“I guess in the beginning we just need some good mileage experience and score points, so for sure the reliability is more a priority than the performance, but let’s see.
“The guys are doing their best and hopefully it will work out.”
Tanak will be joined by teammates Thierry Neuville and new signing Oliver Solberg for a pre-event test in France next week ahead of the season opener.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...2-wrc/7086786/
I remember seeing this helmet cam footage directly on redbull.tv - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrnJCRDj4s - as a separate full leanght featureQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Yeah, 'The Redcar Rocket'.....
Evans: Battery use "critical" on WRC stage times
The WRC will embrace hybrid technology for the first time this season as part of new sweeping Rally1 regulations set to make their debut at the Monte Carlo Rally later this month.
The introduction of hybrid power will present drivers with extra power boosts to be used on each stage, resulting in all-new cars being capable of producing 500 horsepower in short bursts.
The addition of a mandatory Compact Dynamics 100kW hybrid unit to each car has made the machines heavier than their predecessors, while the new Rally1 rules include a tougher safety cell, reduction in aero and suspension travel and the removal of the centre differential. A sequential gearshift has been introduced to replace paddle shift.
However, the extra 130bhp hybrid power is the biggest of the changes, requiring drivers to regenerate power through the stages under braking to receive power boosts that are initiated by using the throttle, and end once the foot comes off the pedal.
Drivers will only receive boosts during the stages if they can regenerate 30 kilojoules of energy under braking to create what is known as a "valid regen", while the amount of extra power available is determined by the FIA, the nature of the stage and its length.
Capped by the FIA, each driver will start every stage with the battery at 80% with the aim of ending the stage with a state of charge of 30%. The battery will return to around 80% through regeneration on the road section before the next stage.
Heading into Monte Carlo drivers and teams are still understanding the full potential of the system, but Toyota's Evans believes managing the hybrid system correctly could prove crucial for stage times at points during the season.
"I think hybrid is something very new that we are all still finding out about," Evans, the WRC runner-up for the last two seasons, told Motorsport.com.
"What we do know is the amount of deployment we have is controlled by the FIA, and of course if the deployment is at a high level, then that has quite an effect on the acceleration of the car.
"If you generate far less of those accelerations, then your stage time is massively hurt by that.
"The battery at its most powerful is worth over 100 horsepower. You only need a few of those accelerations from slow junctions where you don't have it, for it to have a massive effect.
"Of course it is critical element of driving, I think it is going to be probably more critical in some event than others.
"If you are racing in a slippery event then it is less crucial, but if you are on dry tarmac you can make full use of that
While testing has increased in recent months, Evans says he is still not where "he wants to be" in terms of being comfortable in the new GR Yaris that is significantly different to last year.
"Everything feels very very new and very very different to before. Okay it is still a four wheel drive rally car, but there is still a lot things that are new," he added.
"The whole way the car is working is completely different, and that is even before you consider the hybrid, to be honest. There is a lot of new things and a lot of new sensations let's say on the car and that is something you have to get used to.
"I would say [testing has been] okay. Like always with new cars it is never completely straight forward.
"You never seem to have quite enough time to get through what you need to get through. It is really hard to judge because you have no gauge of where you are.
"Personally I still feel I'm not where I want to be yet, but I'm sure there will be many others in the same position.
"I would consider myself a fussy driver in terms of set up and when things are so new. I appreciate it is going to take some time. I still feel there is some work to do to reach the maximum levels of confidence."
All teams will conduct a pre-event test in France next week ahead of the Monte Carlo Rally from 20-23 January.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...times/7112459/
Is it mandatory using the batterypack on stages? And using too much power will be punished in some way by FIA?
Am I correct, or not?
You can turn the hybrid system off. I think the unit just stops working at 30% charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Not using the electric motor on designated electric only zones will result in a report to the stewards.
I would assume the team will set up the torque maps and ensure the systems wont allow the battery to drop below the minimum (30%). The driver can basically use 50% of the charged battery power (80% at the start of a stage, down to 30% by the end) and all the rest must be regenerated power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
As for any FIA penalties, I don't think they have been published.
Elfyn Evan's doesn't sound very happy with the short time available adapting to the hybrid system. Quite a contrast to Craig Breen who says he's really comfortable with the Puma having had a lot of testing time.
Breen sounds comfortable with everything no matter what you ask…