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No, one won rally by Mikkelsen is not much of a statistics. What numbers are there to tell that Lukyanuk would do worse in C3 from that startposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Fast gravel rallies results from last years are not in favor of Fabia. But maybe all those drivers that finance their starts are stupid in using Polos. You go tell them.
Make sure you also tell them that nobody watches onboards to learn the stages while you at it.
so fabia is still slow at fast rallies.Polo is the faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
The faster is usually the one Mikkelsen isn't driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Lukyanuk won in Fiesta. I think he would won with current Fiesta too. He won in Lancer EVO X. He is very good driver.
With the massive ruts, some of the advantage of any leftover cleaning Lukyanuk got, will have been negated a bit in other stages that cut up badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
To be a proper paid wrc driver again, instead of someone who brings budget, Mikkelsen isn't doing enough this year. Look at Ostberg, Mads just simply winning WRC2 "class" isn't going to get him employed by a WRC team again if he is slogging it out with younger up-and-coming drivers, who are far from their peak. When Lappi has stepped back he has shown a better level and that's maybe helped him supposedly get another chance at Toyota.
Andreas has already had 5yrs at rally and championship winning teams. Maybe to you, people are seeming harsh/ hard on him, but that's because the expectation was he was using this year to prove he was "cut above" the likes of Ostberg, Gryazin, Breen, Lukyanuk and younger guys like Solberg and Fourmaux etc.
And let's not change the goalposts now Andreas is failing to deliver on what he said......; " I have one aim next year: that is to dominate every rally that I am doing,” he said. “That means winning every ERC round and winning every WRC round as well. I have the car to do it – Skoda has the best R5 car. For me, there is no question about that. I love the car and getting the chance to spend even more time in it I will perform even better than I did in 2020".
So far the only domination I've seen is against Mikkelsen. Lappi dominated Andreas in Artic, Lukyanuk comfortably beat him in Poland from same road position, and Gryazin was faster in Liepaja to win there. And now the aging Russian, in a new (equal) car with new co driver and same tyres, has taken the domination to a whole new level. Even rolling his car and still having enough time in hand to limp over the line and beat Mikkelsen.
A distant 2nd in R5 and a wrc2 class win is better than crashing like in Croatia and Sardinia, or being beaten in the ERC, but it's still hardly a result that's going to enhance his reputation or wow team bosses which was his season aim. People on here including me (and Mikkelsen himself) clearly expected more. That's why he gets criticised, and because of his seemingly arrogant comments.
Friday stages didn't get rutted up. Saturday is something else. Mikkelsen never tried to chase Lukyanuk on Saturday for very good reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I find it totally funny when Poland and Liepaja shows how road cleaning works for Rally2 cars on these stages, drivers are all vocal about it and then suddenly in Estonia it doesn't matter, because forum experts know better.
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...just simply winning WRC2 "class" isn't going to get him employed by a WRC team again if he is slogging it out with younger up-and-coming drivers, who are far from their peak. When Lappi has stepped back he has shown a better level
In Portugal Lappi was at same time as Suninen and 2s ahead of Gryazin after Friday. (Slogging it out with up and coming drivers?) That's after Østberg already got a puncture. Gryazin then got engine issues first stage in the morning. Suninen got a puncture while 16s behind.
Somehow I don't see how that is clearly better level.
You say Mikkelsen has not shown any domination in 2021, seems you must have forgotten Monte or winning 4 out of 4 powerstages, including also over Lappi.
After dominating 2/3 starts in 2020 and not getting a WRC drive for 2021 (only place was MSport) he said his aim was to dominate every rally.Quote:
... That's why he gets criticised, and because of his seemingly arrogant comments.
That's the only single "arrogant" comment. ("aim", not that he will do it)
What would you suggest his aim for this year should have been in Rally2? Participate and see how it goes? Obviously not.
Clearly when you get a zero score in WRC2 and are paid by the team to win WRC2 the aims might get in conflict.
I hope you understand that you are exactly in the same "category" and this debate is forum expert vs forum expert (or experts).Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Indeed,Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
which is why I try to separate my opinion from what drivers say and do and what results show.
I have no idea how much roadcleaning actually matters. But both me and anyone else can see Poland/Liepaja/Estonia results of the same drivers with different relative road positions and hear their comments. That should matter more than mine or anyone elses opinion here.
I haven't been to Rally Estonia stages for ages now but roads detoriate. And the modern WRCars are known for destroying the road a lot. So it's impossible to compare Poland & Liepaja with Estonia as there were no WRCars.
As I wasn't there and don't have the time to prove one or the other, then I'll stop here.
Missed the rally so I was watching the 3 day highlights thing (1:30 hours combined, right?)... I think they metioned Luyanuk only one time. Why? He just beat the top wrc2 cars... Not a big fan of WRC's coverage (highlights) not caring about the privateers tbh.
Cool to see Kajetan on the podium too! Totally ERC vibes.
WRC2 is basically RC2 with enhanced (read PAID) TV coverageQuote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
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Since he started from 40 mins later (Friday) to 15 ish (Sunday), than last WRC/first WRC2 car he basically never made it to Alllive coverage.
Neither do WRC3 crews get onboard kits afaik (not even all WRC2 sometimes get them).
So only vid you have is from stageside cameras if they (still) record. Similar issue with Monza last year with Mikkelsen and Solberg in WRC3 even when they were running as high as 3rd overall.
Hyundai confirmed Huttunen & Solberg line-up for Ypres. So both should get a new car.
It wasn't as soft as you think. You can see some photos from Lukyanuk's crash here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
https://pl.motorsport.com/wrc/photos...%5B0%5D=269565
You can see some WRC3 highlights here (not much, but better than nothing):Quote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX-9H5r1Uxw
On the other hand I saw onboard of Huttunens crash and that looked quite innocent. Medium speed corner where he slowly went too wide and rolled relatively slowly in the ditch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Didn't look rally-ending, unless rollcage got damaged. Any explanation of why he didn't restart? (in WRC2 just going to finish would give him a few points which he needs with 0 from Arctic).
Look at the panic of the marshal when she sees Lukyanuk :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se2cB1trnlc
I don't know if it was posted here or not, but I found an interesting footage from Sean Johnston's terrifying crash in Rally Estonia. He rolled his car I can't even count how many times (must be more than 10?), but both him and his co-driver are quite OK. Johnston explains what happend and what he was thinking during the crash. Also, have a look at what happened to his eyes at 1:00. This is quite scary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCm7t1osluM
Huttunen said in Finnish interview that car was basicly okay unless radiator was broken, but "they" decide to retire rally. Sound pretty strange, maybe no spare parts?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
That was my worry, that they just retired to "save money". As I mentioned with the low amount of cars in WRC2 he would still get decent points just by finishing and he needs them after engine failure at Arctic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tume88
Basically sounds like Hyundai continues to threat him like thrash. After winning WRC3 in Monza as privateer Adamo was so positive how he and Solberg will progress together etc.
Huttunen is so far the only one delivering anything in WRC2 for Hyundai this year, with the win in Sardinia (sure lots of retirements and issues but still he won). Other than that Hyundai campaign this year is a massive disaster (Solberg last scoring WRC2 driver, Veiby (=money) banned). Yet afaik Huttunen still runs in private KOWAX team with likely limited Hyundai support and basically no testing before rallies and very few starts.
Solberg gets WRC starts and testing rallies yet didn't manage to drive further than 2-3 stages the last two rallies and also crashed early in his R5 testing rally. (Solberg seriously need some coaching imo. His parents sound more like a fanclub, which is understandable but they should seek out someone to "guide" Oliver. I don't think Adamo is the one for that).
Dont know how many spares Huttunen had, but he had a puncture after his roll. Maybe even multiple punctures...cant really tell from the pictures.
One word: money.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Hyundai is last in WRC2 Teams championship and they were biggest favourite to win it.
Both car and drivers have failed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joK5cZuCaZw
Jari Huttunen was interviewed by Krisse Sohlberg. Huttunen tells how his 2018 season was ruined by Sarrazin Motorsport who kept failing at simple things, parts were constantly too old. BRC Motorsport took over at the end of the year and it improved things but for 2019 BRC stopped all rallying completely. In 2019 Huttunen was expecting something to happen since he was having some WRC test drives. And he still hasn't understood why it ended. His only guess is Portugal 2019 when he had a bad rally and crashed out. In Finland when he lost to Katsuta in the WRC car, the team had said "if you make a scratch on the car or lose a bumper, you won't drive ever with us". Right now the support from the factory team is minimal, one engineer is working with them, but no fresh spare parts or engine mappings or anything.
What a poor guy! Nearly no support from Hyundai at all...
...and now also this - Kristian Sohlberg can't even spell his name correctly - Jari Huttusen?! Come on! ;)
For such stories we need a "dislike" button!
P.S. Thanks for your translation :)
Finnish language is complicated, we modify the tails of words instead of addings small modifier words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Jari Huttusen haastattelu = Jari Huttunen's interview
So it's completely correctly spelled.
Thanks for the correction. We also modify tails of words, but I didn't know that it also happens in Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Good luck to Jari!
I said it multiple times before that Huttunen had his career basically destroyed by Hyundai and they keep continuing with that even though Adamo tried to sound different after Monza.
(If you recall in 2019 Hyundai also on purpose didn't let him drive WRC rally in WRC car to get around testing rules, even admitting that)
Winning that Hyundai talent competition in 2017? was actually really bad for him in many ways. Instead he could have been picked by Skoda or MSport...
Only hope is that the new Rally2 car is fast and maybe more importantly doesn't have engine/wastegate or other issues all the time.
WRC2: Good first loop from Suninen, and also Kristenson.
The two new Rally2 Hyundais are getting used to their new tool on asphalt.
Gryazin off road, but moving again after a while.
Toksport announced Ingram for Greece and Spain (WRC 3) + full season 2022 in WRC 2
https://twitter.com/toksportwrt/stat...11335542595585
Maybe explains why he didnt do Ypres with that Belgian team he was with...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
Who's going to pay the 2022 season? (After hearing for ages how Ingram has no money)
New Fabia for car?
He has a few good sponsors now and has also sold 'shares' in himself. I guess Toksport will also give him some assistance like they did in the ERC-winning season.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Is there any info who is the new co-driver for Mikkelsen?
What do you get in return for these shares?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Jonas Andersson will join him in barum, he wan't to test different co-drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead
He had 3 or 4 at hand, Veronika Engan is also a possibility, already in Toksport too:)
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His website just says:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
This investment opportunity is only available to sophisticated or high net worth investors. Minimum Investment size: £10,000. This content is protected.
https://www.rallit.fi/suomalaiskuski...4EvRP6Y1e-5ssE
Huttunen has no idea why he was dropped from Acropolis. He says the power steering problem "is not a reason not to drive in Greece" but in the next comment adds "There's nothing we can do about it at this phase of the season", so does it mean they need a homologation joker to fix it?
Adamo states they never saw the power steering hose problem before and i guess the parc fermé retirement was just a forgotten master switch? Easy to do after a long rough day.