Printable View
Makes me think he can´t handle the pressure put on his shoulders. Easier to make good drives when you´re not driving for important points.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I really do hope there´s some sense in the rumours of Skoda WRC. Not for Camilli but for other good drivers.
I'm thinking the same thing. There are a lot of exciting drivers around and to fit them all it would take abother team. Trouble is I think with five teams there is always going to be one team that is gonna look pretty bad and might pull the plug. Already now I don't know what would happen if Citroen can't manage to make amends to the C3, or Hyundai HQ might get impatient if they won't start winning titles soon. Then again it's good to know that there are backup options around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Ogier has gained a huge number of new fans from everywhere in 2017. Not just for winning the Title with a non-factory team but also with his more humble and friendly approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
David Evans thoughts about Mahonens ridiculous idea https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/co...ut-also-wrong/
And to add, Neuville on the other hand turned out to be a crying baby and lost few fans in my opinion. Ogier remains the same, pressure or not. Neuville seems a lot more fragile...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can't remember when was the last time I liked reading what he was writingQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Well he makes a lot of seriously clear points:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Standardisation is absolutely necessary in areas like the results service and the tracking of the cars – David Richards was absolutely right about that in the late Nineties – but the standardisation and centralisation of routes is absolutely not necessary. David Richards was absolutely wrong about that in the late Nineties.
cookie cutter events and only thing the background is is scene props? Paaaaaska.
This is the absolute central thing in all racing, its been said sop many times by people doing the sport and analytic fans:
And what does every fan love? Unpredictability.
I think we know that...and what has been the result of a lack of unpredictabilty.....interest waning...and in place of genuine interest?
"Promotion" . made for TV "drama"....
People say "We can't go back to...."..."The cars are too fragile"
The chosen roads, the chosen formats the central service (and the bizarre reset button of "Super-rally" has allowed that...)
He continued:
One of the primary appeals of rallying is the simple fact that it’s not bound by the confines of a circuit. It’s bound by nothing but our imagination (and a degree of commercial realism).
It saddened me to hear Mahonen castigating Rally GB for its long days and lack of time in service. And I genuinely beg to differ when Jarmo talks about service being the place for the show.
That last bit..Good god...if that's the case, why bother with the stages?
This part needs to be chiseled into the foreheads of all the media and promotion fools:
For me, the show is, and always will be, in the stages.
Sorry John, meant it in a positive way this time. I do realise now that my post can be read both ways.
That's OK I was only a little confused, but that's normal--especially reading bureaucrater opinions on WRC--or rally in general...Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Mainly I read the link..
Of course its so crazy you have to wonder was Mahonen clear? Or mildly drunk? Is he serious about "Jarmo talks about service being the place for the show." ???
Östberg on Twitter: Travelling from Gardermoen �� to Gatwick �� #business #work #meetings
On his way to meet Malcolm maybe?
For me you're wong. Ogier lack of popularity is due to his fight with Loeb mainly, and then to who he is (arrogant, unfriendly, ...). Nobody cares about the manufacturarer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
But things are changing now. Fight with Loeb is far away. He received to win with two manufacturarers, moreover with "small" M-Sport. Media payed more attention to him at the end of this season.
But I'm not that Citroën winning with and outsider would have specific media attention. Fernando Alonso was very popular during his Renault era - still is - but that was formula 1. WRC has less attention and top french contenders. So I guess Meeke, Breen or anyone else World Champion with Citroën wouldn't get as much attention. Only to ask why Ogier isn't in.
Over the last thirty years did French fans ignore Auriol and Delecour? Ragnotti and Loeb were exceptional since they stayed with one (and a French) manufacturer for their careers, but that alone wouldn't explain Ogier's lack of popularity, so I think it was a result of fighting with Loeb at Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
And then there's Panizzi...
i wonder if there will be any livery changes and if we will see them before the season launch on autosport show on 11th January...although i think they wont change much, maybe m-sport does surprise again with a new one? they have always done that....i hope Toyota improves its livery, they have by faaar the worst one, so messy and that microsoft logo is just out of place. Looks a lot better in plain white testing version.
Driving Mikkelsen's i20 to the supermarket in Sydney, Aus - yawn
http://www.caradvice.com.au/606796/d...hrough-sydney/
They took Paddon's car through a mcdonalds drivethrough last year didn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Panizzi was not very well liked.............by anyone really.
Could it be that Ogier signed a lower deal than what he hoped knowing already something for 2019 (and having no other choices)? ie focus on keeping active for 2018 and have a go at the title but mainly preparing a "come back" with a manufacturer in 2019 (skoda...).
Possible that Hyundai move for him in 2019 when Sordo and Paddons contracts expire, especially if they go yet another year without a championship win. Can't see Seb at Toyota now at all and if Ford haven't returned as a full manufacturer after this year, I doubt they'll come back next year. Also think 2019 is too early for a Skoda entry. 2020 would seem most likely so they can have ample time to test the car and make sure it's ready (unless they've already been developing a wrc car behind the scenes that nobody knows about).Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
New cars from 2020. I doubt that Škoda would come earlier than that. But is that deal lower...salary should be ok, apart from Toyota, others couldn`t afford him, except maybe already overcrowded Hyundai, which why we know why that didn`t happen. They got more tech. support and money from Ford and developing should continue properly...should be ok.
This current formula of cars are fixed for 5 years, not till 2020.
"The World Motor Sport Council also approved new technical and homologation requirements for the 2017-2019 World Rally Championship Cars."Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
So what does that mean? Plus i also remember that Toyota also aims for a homologation special Yaris to build a new car from in 2019/2020.
I'm sure it will be published online soon but the big Motorsport News story today was that Chile is close to agreeing terms to join the WRC calendar in 2019. Candidate rally to run just before Argentina next year. Forest-based with nice smooth gravel roads.
Japan also pushing for inclusion in 2019. Croatia seems to be off the table now as they can't make a date work.
More importantly there are new quotes from Ciesla reiterating that we may end up with shorter events, so we can move towards a 15 or 16 round championship in the future.
At least in Chile, they have more local drivers to compete than in Mexico. If Chile is part of 2019 calendar, Mexico will have to leave. Or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Well, in other years, it could be argued that Mexico was an important market for the brands involved in the WRC, but now, in the case of Ford, the new Fiesta will no longer be sold in North America and Hyundai does not sell the i20 either, Citroën does not exists in North America, the only one that sells here is the Toyota Yaris.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
Er, what about NZ. They seem determined that they're not going there.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
As for Ciesla, hasn't he learnt from the previous promoter? 15/16 short identikit events isn't the answer. That's a huge financial burden for the teams - and what is the real benefit? The last time we had that many events, look what happened.
Far better to have 8-10 proper, well promoted EVENTS that completely sell the sport. But that doesn't suit their aims....
If they want new and fresh events in calendar make a few rotate events available, like Australia-New Zealand, Argentina-Chile, Poland-Turkey, Sardegna-Acropolis,... And play smart with final event in Europe.
I'm sure that Citroen will not even be at final probably, they are so poor.
...what is the point of having more, but shorter, rallies? The cost to the teams is for all intents and purposes the same whether the rally runs for a day or a week. Whose money are they saving? The local organizers'? It's a bunch of different groups spread around the world, not one big pool of money. If they're willing to host a rally have them host a proper rally, not a rally sprint.
This Ciesla guy, I've never liked him. I'm obviously not an insider or anything, but I have a feeling that he just doesn't get it.
Not really, but it's way more expensive to do two two-day rallies than one four-day rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
InterestingQuote:
@HartusvuoriWRC:
King @GronholmM says he would drive @RallySweden 2018 if Tommi would offer him a @TGR_WRC car. Marcus turns 50 years on Feb 5th, just before the event.
Would you like to see the old champ back?
https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9987838
This was rumoured already during Rally Finland when Marcus did those few VIP runs in Yaris WRC. Marcus is known to be quite enigmatic in his plans, and what he says in the Finnish interview is that if Tommi would give him a car as a present, sure he'd drive it in Sweden. It's not said in very serious way, but still there might lie some true interest there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
http://www.autohebdo.fr/wrc/actualit...ir-191016.html
Lefebvre aims to bounce back in WRC2. Let's hope the C3 R5 is better than the DS3 R5...
For those who love number trivia:
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/decem...8--12-12-.html
Merry Christmas from Skoda: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CaEQY5N0JPQ
Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Great stuff by Skoda:DQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Ford official back in the WRC!
M-Sport Ford World Rally Team (Ford Fiesta WRC)
Hyundai Shell Mobis World Rally Team (Hyundai I20 Coupe WRC)
Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT (Toyota Yaris WRC)
Citroën Total Abu Dhabi WRT (Citroën C3 WRC)
Camillis interview
https://planeterallyeactus.wordpress...-eric-camilli/
That seems very familiar to me, at that time only with Ogier in the Polo in Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Apparently, on the way to the WRC, Skoda also received the marketing folder for the design plans for the Polo WRC :-)
He says he's planning to do a mix of WRC and WRC2 with M-Sport. He also wants to see his supporters in Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
https://www.is.fi/ralli/art-2000005502849.html
Let's go crazy once again.
Tommi Mäkinen says he wants rallies to have 250 kms max so a WRC car could do 2 events between full services. Would also help with remote events, the car shipped to another continent could do two events without a full service at headquarters. Also, he wants more action for rallying days, he does not like having 5 hours between a loop of 2-3 stages. He wants to cure that by cutting the length of the rallies from 3 to 2 days.