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Agree, neither Apple or Google gambled, they were sure about their product and visions.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I guess you never checked how many Google products failed. They do it all the time, they throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
We are OT, but we all meant Google as the whole company, not their policy with their projects. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
And my only problem is I didn't have credit card.. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by itix
One thing I really wish WRC+ would provide is the option to have pure sound on the live stages.
To be able to hear just the cars or the co-driver would be brilliant.
So sick of crap commentators telling me stuff and spoiling the whole thing. :(
This fan vid shows all the sounds we miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6ERtPCKIU
Anyone having issues with losing sound on the onboards? Especially with Meeke?
yes, no sound on his onboardQuote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
same with Tänak
Same with Neuville, Mikkelsen...
And they don't seem to upload onboards where something happen, or they cut it from the onboard... Like Mikkelsen spin on SS7, Ogier hitting a bridge on SS4, Lefebvre trip through a field on SS8.
The audio on the Monte onboards last year was garbage too.
Second loop of day 1 stages only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I must say that regarding Monte I am disappointed with WRC+ and live coverage, again...
No live stages during Friday & Saturday. Why not?? The event was virtually over when they had the live stages today. I'm sorry, but they're not doing enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
It was also quite boring. I don't know if it's the way they edit it, or the camera positions or what, but I didn't particularly enjoy this weekend's coverage. Glad I'm not paying for it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Reason why I didn't extend. Onboard position sucks + quality. It was advertised they would do 3 live SS every rally, not furfilled + lot of mickey Mouse stages. Etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
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3 live stages isn't that much either if it is the same pattern - some city stage at beginning and repeating the powerstage at Sunday. Even this we didn't see last year. The new this year are interviews we've already seen elsewhere couple of times in the middle of the driving. Boring, boring...Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
On the other hand split and stage times weren't working for me most of the rally, I'm quite disappointed so far. They should concentrate on the quality, rather than fanciness.
So the biggest moment of the rally when Meeke hits the rock and there is no sound on the onboard. Not good enough.
The thing is with WRC+ we all know really its not worth the price, but if nobody pays for it they will stop it and if we carry on as is I doubt we will see progress. All we can do is all pass on "constructive criticism" and hope the WRC promoters listen for a change.
Last week I subscribed to WRC+ for one month to try it. I don't think I'm going to renew, because...
- The 3x 1 hour of live rallying is not very good. They manage to put in about 50% filler, like interviews they've shown before and the celebrity drifting for the third or fourth time. And the commentator just will not shut up when there is nothing to say.
- The highlights are pretty ordinary. At the end of the highlights I don't have any sense of why driver X has moved from 3rd to 4th or whatever. There is no insight to it, nobody on this show is going to become a respected sports journalist. They miss a lot of actual highlights that I can see for free on social media, uploaded by spectators. And again there is a lot of repeat footage. It's not terrible, it would be OK on free TV for the general public, but for paying subscribers (i.e. enthusiasts) I would like more careful and intelligent coverage.
- The basic video quality is inadequate. It's OK resolution, but not enough bitrate for high motion. Many fan uploads to youtube are quite a lot better.
- I think the best part is the onboard footage. Well, except when the sound disappears. I might pay 10 euros a year for this, but not fifty.
Still, maybe Sweden will change my mind.
They won't listen, they know best.......or they think they do. The coverage hasn't really moved on in the last 10 years; still the same highlights, inane comments, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
The problem is we, as a collective, put up with it because "it's better than nothing". This has to change - I'm fed up with this attitude in rallying. This is the reason the sport is the way it is.
I've been watching highlights of the IRC 2011 Monte on YouTube....it's better even though it has Carlton Kirby commentating....
Coverage from 5 years ago is better than what we have now. Not good enough!
Dont forget, that you must unsubscribe if you dont want to pay next month...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Just cancelled my WRC+ ... just not worth having and hopefully if more of us do this they will take note and improve...
But I wont hold my breath.
Even Ogier has a GOPRO in the middle of the seats now so no excuses to have it where it is now really
somebody must sent them a mail with a link to this conversation here.
Doubt if it helps though.
Personally i dont bother.
For most of rallies, i find everything on social media.Faster, more,and better.
To watch an incar where the position of camera doesnt help to understand if the driver has the right line,or how close he is to the edge of road,doesnt help my needs for watching it.
But thats only me.
About rally radio,i want more informations that i dont know,and not something i already know,and not bla-bla about everything.
Everybody at this wrc circus is amateur.
I am pretty sure that some guys from here can provide much better info,before and during the rally.
I sent them e-mail a few months ago with proposition to change onboard camera angle. Never got reply...
I signed up at Rally Australia to follow Paddon. And to be honest I am totally disappointed with it. I'm going to cancel my subscription. I dont really see what extra value I get for the money. Highlight vids which arent that great, some onboard of crap quality, and live stages which arent that great either. I can follow the times live, and live text for free which is the main thing to follow during a rally. I just dont see the value in it...
Did you just say that the last two livestages also have the pre season interviews which was already featured in the pre season review & the celeb event..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Shame on you, WRC..
This is the kind of image quality the WRC should aim for, not that useless stone age stuff they even have the nerve to ask money for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbKvt_45Xg
and of course to offer better camera angles.
I'll will be dropping an email to the team at WRC TV with most of your words regarding feedback. If you'd like to add any more please do.
Yes, tell them to answer the emails and to not steal money to people, even if they do it in an underhand legally way.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
BTW, I appreciate your gesture but really, it is crazy that they are not reading this thread (and other forums thread about WRC+) by themself.
It is recognized as the most cheaper and easy way to understand users will. So if they have not done it before they will never follow our suggestions now.
tell them they are sick dogs and they smell also.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
oh and their wives are ugly...
you can also add this link which very accurately describes my feelings towards them from 1.47 onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0wvGiAH9g
Heard Paddon had quite an eventful stage 10 so tried to watch it, but into the direct sun the lens flare is unwatchable, and after his first spin the onboard switches to him near the finish. So much for getting you closer to the action.
Agreed. And it can't be hard to fit a bullet camera between the crews, given how little space they take up..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/roadhaw...et-camera.html
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
And it was my first thought after watching Bertelli's footage. So they are recording it in great quality and then convert it to shitty unwatchable videos.
Also If someone is writing e-mail to WRC+ please attach the link to this thread.
Hi guys, I just bought wrc+ for one year, 40 euros. I did it mainly because of the onboard videos but the quality is absolutely crap. Compared to the onboard video they upload on youtube, it's much worse. Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12gK_2hGo7I
how can I improve the quality?
Finding a way to make them fire their product manager and probably the CTO. I fear there are no alternativesQuote:
Originally Posted by bodemiller
Haha, seriously, why are they offering the onboar videos with so low quality? They are available in Full HD, as I can see them in TV coverage. Why the hell are they downgrading them for Wrc+ ??? For me, it's a scam!
It's hard to believe but no one knows. At this point the answers to your questions can be found in the first three post of this page. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bodemiller
How should work live coverage from WRC event. I would like to mention, that this video is 17 years old...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JcRypJwGA