[ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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2nd February 2014, 12:40
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Pushkar driving with broken wheel
http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/deta ... -WITH-3%3F!

Kajetanowicz on SS8
http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/deta ... NOWICZ-SS8
2nd February 2014, 12:56
stefanvv

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Pushkar driving with broken wheel
http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/deta ... -WITH-3%3F!

It's amazing the wheel stayed attached to the suspension and allowed him to finish the stage. Reminds of Rally cars years ago
2nd February 2014, 13:05
LVrainman

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

they changed the gearbox on Gryazyn's car before last SS :)
2nd February 2014, 13:07
stefanvv

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by LVrainman

they changed the gearbox on Gryazyn's car before last SS :)

This must be his 3rd gearbox this Rally, right?
2nd February 2014, 13:09
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

No, second. Also it's not allowed to have three for priority drivers (if I'm not mistaken).

EDIT: Tamrazov out, technical problem.
2nd February 2014, 13:10
LVrainman

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

probably, if they changed yesterday aswell then third, yes, if they didn't change yesterday then second.
2nd February 2014, 13:11
stefanvv

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

No, second. Also it's not allowed to have three for priority drivers (if I'm not mistaken).

Aha, thanks. Yesterday he had problems, did they tried to repair it somehow, or he just started today with broken?
2nd February 2014, 13:21
bluuford

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Huge number of engine related problems in this event. Toomuch time on rev-limiter? or too mucj snow in radiators?
2nd February 2014, 13:27
LVrainman

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

check out the times for SS9 and SS12. they are ~45 seconds faster the second time :eek:
2nd February 2014, 13:30
Sulland

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

What can we read in to this result list, where The S2000 cars are dominant.
Are they competitive vs R5 and RRC, or are the R5 drivers not good enough for this rally?
2nd February 2014, 13:31
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

... and Lappi won in a big style! Anyway also biiig congratulations to Gryazhin. I didn't expect him to be so fast.

EDIT: Now also Raul Jeets with water temperature problems. All Fiesta R5 except works one of Kajetanowicz with same problem...
2nd February 2014, 13:34
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Congratulations to Lappi for perfect job to start the season, Gryazin for an amazing and unexpected second and Breen for a podium on his last event with the 207. From his recent comments I think Breen can't wait to get his hands on the 208 R5, it will be interesting to see if it is fast enough and reliable enough to take on the Fabia S2000.

Also thumbs up for an impressive drive for Jan Cerny.
2nd February 2014, 13:36
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Sulland

What can we read in to this result list, where The S2000 cars are dominant.

Not much yet I don't think. This was probably THE rally of the season you would expect Lappi to win, and the only good level driver with an R5 was Kajetanowicz.
2nd February 2014, 13:46
stefanvv

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulland

What can we read in to this result list, where The S2000 cars are dominant.

...the only good level driver with an R5 was Kajetanowicz.

who was learning to drive with such tyres and conditions.
Congratulations to Lappi, win with style indeed, Gryazin is the hero of the Rally though, with mechanical problems still seconds - a dream result. I think I can distinguish also Wiegand - when he was not cleaning the road, he was fast, may be this year we'll see some progress from him :confused:
2nd February 2014, 13:48
HarriK

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Kajetanowics almost crashed at last stage finish line!
He jumped out of road!
2nd February 2014, 13:49
stefanvv

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

All Fiesta R5 except works one of Kajetanowicz with same problem...

I guess that is serious flaw in the design of Fiesta R5, for drivers who like to "stick their nose" in the snow banks, I don't think Kajetanovich did that, he was just driving safely this Rally.
2nd February 2014, 13:51
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

EDIT: Now also Raul Jeets with water temperature problems. All Fiesta R5 except works one of Kajetanowicz with same problem...

Sweden could be interesting then!
2nd February 2014, 13:53
dimviii

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Cerny very impressive pace for these conditions!
2nd February 2014, 14:09
Tom206wrc

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

And by the way ?erný smashed Immonen in SS9 by a crazy time!

And C2 is really "old"...put Risto Immonen in a 208 and imagine his pace :eek:
2nd February 2014, 14:33
Karbonyl

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

It's amazing the wheel stayed attached to the suspension and allowed him to finish the stage. Reminds of Rally cars years ago

Actually if he went like this up to the service, it's an infringement of the FIA RRR (Art. 20.1.5). But if nobody complains... :)

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

This must be his 3rd gearbox this Rally, right?

No, it's second, they didn't change it finally on Saturday evening's service.

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

And C2 is really "old"...put Risto Immonen in a 208 and imagine his pace :eek:

The performance difference between 208 and C2 Max is not so big as it is ussualy heard and especially not on surface like this in Latvia.
2nd February 2014, 15:13
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

By the way out of 12 stages we have these winners: Lappi 7, Gryazhin 2, Bouffier 1, Plangi 1, Wiegand 1
2nd February 2014, 15:14
garais22

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

PHOTO GALLERY from today stages http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/rallijs ... a-2-diena/
2nd February 2014, 16:29
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Short wrap up video including the reason for Tarabus' suspension failure: http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/deta ... -THE-RALLY
2nd February 2014, 17:05
Fast Eddie WRC

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

So the end of an era for the venerable old Pug 207 S2000 ... its been outclassed for a while but always kept the likes of Breen in with a chance against the newer machinery... :)

Fairwell and thanks !

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/new...a-News-Pic.jpg

Onwards and upwards with the 208T16... cant wait ! :bounce:

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/gal...-Test-(10).jpg
2nd February 2014, 17:05
RICARDO75

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Standings

ERC
1º Robert Kubica and Esapekka Lappi (39)
3º Vasily Griazin (37)
4º Vaclav Pech Jr. (30)
5º Craig Breen (25)
6º Raimund Baumschlager (24)
7º Beppo Harrach (20)
8º Kajetan Kajetanowicz (19)
9º Jaromir Tarabus and Sepp Wiegand (17)

ERC Production Cup
1º Beppo Harrach (39)
2º J?nis Vorobjovs (36)
3º Hermann Neubauer and Vitaliy Pushcar (27)
5º Ernst Haneder (25)
6º Stanislav Tranikov (24)
7º Mario Klepatsch and Martynas Samuitis (19)
9º Kornél Lukács (16)
10º Martin Hudec (12)

ERC 2WD Cup
1º Michael Böhm and Jan ?erný (39)
3º Risto Immonen (30)
4º Josef Petàk (28)
5º Julius Tannert (23)
6º Petter Kristiansen (22)
7º Wolf?Dieter Ihle and Matias Olsson (18)
9º Ralfs Sirmacis (17)
10º Lukáš Pond?lí?ek (12)

ERC Junior
1º Jan ?erný (25)
2º Risto Immonen (18)
3º Petter Kristiansen (15)
4º Matias Olsson (12)
5º Andrea Crugnola (10)
6º Aleksander Zawada (8)
7º Jean-Matthieu Leandri (6)
8º Chris Ingram (4)
9º Fabrizio Andolfi (2)

ERC Ladies Cup
1º Inessa Tushkanova and Martina Danhelovà (3)
3º Ekaterina Stratieva (2)

ERC Ice Master
1º Robert Kubica (122)
2º Vaclav Pech Jr. (110)
3º Esapekka Lappi (83)
4º Raimund Baumschlager (68)
5º Kajetan Kajetanowicz (59)
6º Vasily Gryasin (57)
7º Beppo Harrach (44)
8º Craig Breen (35)
9º Sepp Wiegand (30)
10º Jaromir Tarabus (22)
11º Siim Plangi (20)
12º Andreas Aigner (11)
13º Bryan Bouffier (10)
14º Kristaps Feldmanis (4)
15º Petter Kristiansen (2)
16º Steve Røkland, J?nis Vorobjovs and Raul Jeets (1)
2nd February 2014, 17:27
giù tutto!

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Lappi did what he was supposed to do. I think he was surprised about Gryazin's pace also. For sure the driver of the rally is the young Russian. Very curious to see his pace on next events.

I'm a little bit surprised about the attitude that no sense to drive a rally like this 'cause the conditions are not the same for everyone. C'mon, that's part of rally! I guess there was a chance for everyone to do their best at qualifying stage and thereby had a chance to do something with their starting position. Playing tactics and using the brains is part of rally also. Winners find a way, losers find excuses.

Very impressed about Cerny! He knocked out the northern boys on their familiar surface. It won't be easy for them to try to beat Cerny on tarmac. The concept of the Junior ERC looks working well, good set of fast young drivers from different countries and different cars. What else can you want?
2nd February 2014, 17:40
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Full stage onboard of Simone Tempestini from SS10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2d7NLm28k

And a nice short clip from local TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Eg3SIoY1A
2nd February 2014, 17:54
garais22

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

FULL PHOTO GALLERY from today + podium http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/rallijs ... a-2-diena/
2nd February 2014, 19:38
Rallyper

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Lappi has showed he´s a coming driver. Not layed back as some of us thought he´d be after contract with Skoda. He impressed very much. Next year we want him in WRC.
2nd February 2014, 19:50
dimviii

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Lappi has showed he´s a coming driver. Not layed back as some of us thought he´d be after contract with Skoda. He impressed very much. Next year we want him in WRC.

so if somebody won against Gryazin is ready for wrc? stay calm. :D
2nd February 2014, 19:55
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Lappi has showed he´s a coming driver. Not layed back as some of us thought he´d be after contract with Skoda. He impressed very much. Next year we want him in WRC.

Slow down :D

But yes, what I liked about him is that he also seemed enthusiastic and happy this weekend. As has been said, this was the event he would have been expected to win. Let's see how he does on the other events, but I think he is probably favourite for the title as he will have the support to do it and a reliable and fast car (unless the 208 is something amazing)

He is in a good place to improve his tarmac skills. ERC champion this year, WRC with Fabia R5 in 2015 and then maybe promotion to VW sounds like a plan to me ;)
2nd February 2014, 20:01
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Skoda onboards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zGenQTa ... e=youtu.be
2nd February 2014, 20:14
sindroms

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Bouffier's failure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsmlbaKMb8
2nd February 2014, 20:33
Jarek Z

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Lappi has showed he´s a coming driver. Not layed back as some of us thought he´d be after contract with Skoda. He impressed very much. Next year we want him in WRC.

Slow down :D

But yes, what I liked about him is that he also seemed enthusiastic and happy this weekend. As has been said, this was the event he would have been expected to win. Let's see how he does on the other events, but I think he is probably favourite for the title as he will have the support to do it and a reliable and fast car (unless the 208 is something amazing)

Yes, I also think that Lappi is main candidate for the title, but his success depends on two factors:
1) how good 208 R5 is
2) how good is the chicken business this year (is Bouffier in or out of the championship?) :)
2nd February 2014, 20:41
dimviii

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

broken fywheel for Orsak.
2nd February 2014, 20:43
Mirek

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

Interesting, that hasn't happened on Fabia since one bad batch from 2010 I think (or at least I haven't heard about it since then).

Gryazhin receives Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy.
2nd February 2014, 21:33
bluuford

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

I am wondering.. is it the same Gryazin I have seen driving on Estonian roads? Tooking sometimes strange lines, often going veery wide etc. There are three possibilities:
a) he has improved a lot
b) Lappi and all others are actually really slow drivers
c) He has a fast twin brother :-)
btw. He was 6th in Rally Estonia 2013, just behind Timmu Kõrge..who was driving Evo9..
2nd February 2014, 21:37
RICARDO75

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

nice video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcf...em-uploademail
2nd February 2014, 21:43
RS

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

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Originally Posted by RS

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

2) how good is the chicken business this year (is Bouffier in or out of the championship?) :)

If he can do enough events Bouffier can win the title (if he doesn't hit any more hay bails)... I have a feeling that ERC title could be his aim this year, he said "it would have been better to have started on Janner" which I took as a hint he is not just aiming for one or two events here and there.
2nd February 2014, 21:48
Rallyper

Re: [ERC] Rally Liep?ja 2014 (31.1.-1.2. 2014)

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Lappi has showed he´s a coming driver. Not layed back as some of us thought he´d be after contract with Skoda. He impressed very much. Next year we want him in WRC.

so if somebody won against Gryazin is ready for wrc? stay calm. :D

I can stay calm. No problem. But that was what we discussed Lappi was to. Too calm. Now he was driving 100% until finish line, with a very good stagetime even when his rally was won stages before.
I´m sure his efforts brings him to WRC as well.

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