Homophobia

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Was it me that stated that?

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post 253:

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Mishap is minimizing a very serious biological anomaly not yet understood by the sciences and completely misunderstood by the citizenry.

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The root of the apparent argument :)

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

I've tried twice now to read the last few pages of this thread, but I can't! :erm: It's so uninteresting. :erm:

Could someone give me the gist, in 100 characters or fewer? :D

Some tit-for-tat affair, is it? :)

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no... go away and spice up the forum elsewhere :p

Ah, so that's it. :D Thanks, Donks! ;)

I say, "Repent Spafranco!" So we can all kiss and make up, much to airshifter's delight! :D :p

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

no... go away and spice up the forum elsewhere :p

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But this is the only home I know... :( :p

To me it looks now like we've all been here before. Same donkeys too. Same quoting of medical articles, claims of character assassination, cherry-picking, not reading people's posts...
I'm sorry I fell for it and didn't realise earlier.

Here's how that thread ended:

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Originally Posted by loowisham

Well, I see that now you are suggesting to me to PM.

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Funnily enough, I just got a PM :laugh:

(which I shall dutily ignore... whatever :dozey :)

This thread has moved way past discussing the subject and has sunk to the normal pissing contest, arguing about personalities and irrelevant 'facts' :(

Oh we'll, let me know if anything improves but I'm out of here :wave:

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

This thread has moved way past discussing the subject and has sunk to the normal pissing contest, arguing about personalities and irrelevant 'facts' :(

Oh we'll, let me know if anything improves but I'm out of here :wave:

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I'll let you know (via PM) if it improves, Cock-on. :cheese: :p

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

I've tried twice now to read the last few pages of this thread, but I can't! :erm: It's so uninteresting. :erm:

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It is. Elements of it are almost indecipherable, too. Shame, really. It was interesting before one member waded in.

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

.... So we can all kiss and make up, much to airshifter's delight! :D :p

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Since you have a fixation with those kisses I'll start the series:
:kiss:

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

It is. Elements of it are almost indecipherable, too. Shame, really. It was interesting before one member waded in.

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Oh well. All good things must come to an end. :erm: Pity we never got to hear from Roamy, though. :D

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

Since you have a fixation with those kisses I'll start the series:
:kiss:

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:kiss: ;)

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

First of all I am well informed as to who the Tuskegee airmen were. How you deemed that I do not, based upon a question and pointing out the fact that the last of these brave men died is rather ambitious of you.

Secondly, you have your opinion but you do not have the right to make character assassination judgements.

It seems as though you and a couple of others have one goal and that is to create an argument. Don't read my posts. Simple as that.

If you knew how carefully the language used in medical studies you would not make idiotic statements such as the one above.

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Unfortunately it is those that are closest to medical studies and scientific reports that are the most skeptical. They are written for the purpose of peer review. Very often by post grad students. It is only the media and certain section of the public that take them at face value.

Interestingly most of what you have stated about me is true of yourself. Forums eh, simple point that the wording in medical reports from 30 to 70 years ago may well have carried bigotry within the words. (and inclusion of a well known example regarding racism in US in the 1940s) That was all.

I assumed you did not know much about the Tuskegee airmen, else you would have formed a link with the point I was making and the report you posted from 1944 - your whole point was to demonstrate that derogatory wording aimed against homosexuals (such as you used yourself earlier in the thread) was 'normal' in medical reports. My point was it might well have been 'normal' in 1944 - but it certainly is not now.

But I won't be returning to this thread as your accusations that I posted just to somehow agree with other forum members or that you are somehow being picked on, in itself is ridiculous. I'm quite capable of having my own opinions.

What you have avoided is what you have been asked over and over by others. Why do you think being gay is a mishap?

It is you who took my posts so personally and started on the accusations btw. It is all here to read back through.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

To me it looks now like we've all been here before. Same donkeys too. Same quoting of medical articles, claims of character assassination, cherry-picking, not reading people's posts...
I'm sorry I fell for it and didn't realise earlier.

Here's how that thread ended:


Funnily enough, I just got a PM :laugh:

(which I shall dutily ignore... whatever :dozey :)

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Your choice.

Eurotroll, it seems that there are many people that have no sense of what a person is saying or referring to. There is no point in me addressing the post of Sproket where he/she decides what it is that I am thinking.

Suffice it to say and to you and BDunnell I hold no malice towards people of different sexual orientation. That includes all.
If I offended anyone it was not my intent and I apologize to those that felt aggrieved.

speaking of Heterophobia . . . . oh wait! wrong thread.

Not that there is one on this topic but it wouldn't surprise me.

So sorry, carry on. This thread aint lasting much longer looks like.

I'm going to focus on all these great FIFA worldcup qualifiers coming up.
Vamos Colombia, España y Argentina!

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Eurotroll, it seems that there are many people that have no sense of what a person is saying or referring to. There is no point in me addressing the post of Sproket where he/she decides what it is that I am thinking.

Suffice it to say and to you and BDunnell I hold no malice towards people of different sexual orientation. That includes all.
If I offended anyone it was not my intent and I apologize to those that felt aggrieved.

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Of this I'm aware already, so there's no need to apologise; however, I simply don't understand how this squares with your desire always to stress that gay people have a 'serious anomaly' and related comments.

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

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So sorry, carry on. This thread aint lasting much longer looks like.

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Sorry for my presumptuous behavior.
If this thread is to continue in peace and some good is to come out of it, who am I to assume anything.

peace dammit!

One good friend of mine wouldn't exist if there wasn't homophobia .

Her father is gay , and led a double-life , as a professor at the university of Toronto during the week , and on weekends , was her father , in a suburban household .
Had he been born perhaps just ten years later , he would never have bothered with that suburban life .

He was beaten for being gay .
He was arrested for the same issue , at an infamous bath house bust in Toronto .
It wasn't easy .

And , he considers her as his greatest gift , and despite all the hardship associated with being gay in that time period , he states he would not have had it any other way .

She is a published writer , and performance artist .
"Confessions of a fairy's daughter" just played recently at our local United church .


It's not easy being green , either .

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Of this I'm aware already, so there's no need to apologise; however, I simply don't understand how this squares with your desire always to stress that gay people have a 'serious anomaly' and related comments.

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I feel like there is a disconnect and you are of the impression and some others that I personally view homosexuality as a serious anomaly.Like the movie "Lost in translation" title of the movie.
It would be true to say that every person born is an anomaly since no two are identical,not even identical twins even though they share the same DNA, they have different areas of their metabolism that are always unique.

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

I feel like there is a disconnect and you are of the impression and some others that I personally view homosexuality as a serious anomaly.

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Well, this was what you said, without (as far as I can recall — no time to look it up now) the qualification that it wasn't your own view, in one of your first posts in the thread.

Fine. If I posted in error then it is my fault.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

To me it looks now like we've all been here before. Same donkeys too. Same quoting of medical articles, claims of character assassination, cherry-picking, not reading people's posts...
I'm sorry I fell for it and didn't realise earlier.

Here's how that thread ended:


Funnily enough, I just got a PM :laugh:

(which I shall dutily ignore... whatever :dozey :)

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Why don't you stop your whining and moaning about me and address the thread. The only thing you have done since it started is trying your damnedest to involve me in an argument that you with your 8,000 posts feel that you have an insight into everything.
At least when you try to engage me use my name. I spafranco did PM you. Why have you put up someone else who has not posted here?
Do you actually go around trying to find posts by others and use them to cast aspersions on their character? That is sad.
You have never answered the question posed by me earlier. You attributed a quote to me but would not identify it.
You also have made suggestions that I am using more than one screen name. I can assure you I am not. If you are using IP addresses as your method of identifying me you will see that I live in the Southern State of Arkansas. I do not have a personal server and my IP address is the same as my neighbors and most homes on my street. These people as well as me have XFINITY. They are the one with my address.
So please just answer the questions posed and stop your blatant attempt at disruption. Do you want me to be banned? Is that it? LOl.

I recall an old saying about people victimized and bullied. It was in another language. The translation is "Our day will come". I'll let you know who said it.

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Why don't you stop your whining and moaning about me

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whatever :dozey:

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

So DonKeyote, seems that you should be reprimanded.

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Who's whining and moaning? :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

You have never answered the question posed by me earlier. You attributed a quote to me but would not identify it.
... So please just answer the questions posed and stop your blatant attempt at disruption.

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I HAVE DONE. I gave you the post number, here and here. Now leave me alone. You're beyond help http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/dozey.gif

As I said, I'm sorry to have fallen for it and not realising who/how you were beforehand.
Bye :wave:

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

You have never answered the question posed by me earlier. You attributed a quote to me but would not identify it.
... So please just answer the questions posed and stop your blatant attempt at disruption.

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I HAVE DONE. I gave you the post number. Now leave me alone. You're beyond help :dozey:

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

Except you haven't ! :p

Again, you have not supplied anything to support your (I assume personal, subjective) view of homosexuality as a very serious anomaly or a mishap.

very serious / mishap

very serious / mishap

and one last time:very serious / mishap

Got it ? :)

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Bold letters and all. Seems as though you're taking your ball and running off home.

I'm sure you're aware of the old adage pertaining to assumption.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

whatever :dozey:


Who's whining and moaning? :laugh:



I HAVE DONE. I gave you the post number, here and here. Now leave me alone. You're beyond help :dozey:

As I said, I'm sorry to have fallen for it and not realising who/how you were beforehand.
Bye :wave:

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Who I am? When people go into withdrawals from many types of drugs be they meds or illicit they tend to become paranoid and imagine all sorts of things.
Oh, and boo hoo to you.

Donkey has been looking for links for my comments. He seem ignores what I have given and selectively tries to undermine anything said by me. Do I care. Not in the slightest.
Since he has scurried off and will not read any posts by me o the subject; wink ; wink, I am providing yet another link for those interested. The contents and the opinions are not mine as the ass I mean donkey tries to assert.
Epigenetics - Genes and homosexuality

epigenetic link to homosexuality? ... the same result, so that if one process is knocked out by some biological accident, the process as a whole would still survive.

Sparfranco.
Choose your battles I say.

Don't chose this one.

This thread has gone way past topic.