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That looks like snow is granted :) The town itself is located deep in quite warm valley. The stage than climbs some 1000 meters higher in the mountains and after going through tunnels it gets to the Vercors plateau where it is always much colder than in the town. By much I mean difference more than 5 degrees Celsius. It can be even 10 degrees colder there :)Quote:
Originally Posted by trifonvl
I think You mean Bouffier instead of Delecour?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
No, Delecour was the brilliant crazy guy in tire choice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Col de la Fontbelle.
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recce for JML
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Toni Gardemaister ? Ice crew ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
That's right, it was Delecour the only one to put studded snow tyres. Funny thing is, he said afterwards that he wanted other type of tyres but didn't have them available.Quote:
Originally Posted by pucky54
Reminds me of Jänner, where same thing happened :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
I was on that stage and Delecour wasn't only one on studs but only one from top with all four with studs. Bouffier had D10 but I think only two with studs and he also had a massive spin in the other stage and that was time he lost to Delecour. Loix had four D10 without studs. Most of late runners had studs as they already knew what is going on when they were leaving service.
Weather looks to come extremely cold and most of the tire choices easy.. why, it will be really cold and snowy rally. Even the shakedown in Valence should be spectacular, because it is going to snow there as well :-) Only problem will be the tyre management.. they are allowed to use only 10 studded tyres and 20 snow tyres, rest of them are just soft..
Remember the event was mostly dry, Hanninen was about 50secs to a 1 min ahead; Solberg was his closest rival, and at the mid day service they watched each others tyre choices. Delecour was interviewed, and said he had a friend up in the hills; and that it was snowing. Delecour and Bouffier had the right tyres, either on the wheels, or as spares. Hanninen, Solberg & Kopecky went with dry tyres........Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I seem to remember Maurin struggling first on the road on dry tyres, and Delecour under steering on the dry Tarmac early on the first of the afternoon's stages - before hitting the snow, and setting quick times. And to watch it all on LiveTV was awesome!!
I remember that too. I was in the first downhill after the tunnels where there is no GSM signal to inform anyone. It was snowing all the time before but not heavily. The road was rather clean till gravel crews stopped driving. Once there was no traffic it started to keep on the road. We had a big discussion with friends in time the top was leaving service what tyres would we recommend to the crews. Even being there we were only two of ten voting for studs. After half an hour (still a lot of time before start) everyone knew studs are the only option. Waiting for Juho was neverending and to see him sliding slowly downhill through the fog was painful...
Anyway there was one interesting thing. Juho had two winter tyres without studs if I remember (kopecký not). He put them cross, one to front axle, one to rear axle. It proved to be better with a car without center diff than to have both on same axle. Last year if I remember many driver did the same for stage Burzet including Loeb.
Interesting photo
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Name is Gardemeister.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Julian Porter @The_Rally_Guru
SS1/3 & SS2/4 are done, SS1/2 is wet, no snow. SS2/4 The first 9kms clear, the last 21kms is snow & slush.
Those were the days...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Why cant the WRC sort itself out and do what the IRC did ...
Νovikov at 2,16 lol
i wonder why all of them have rally cars on recce?
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Burzet 15km
@The_Rally_Guru Julian Porter
The start line of SS6 - St Bonnet Le Froid.
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LOL, Ostberg uses an ex Gronholm seat (2:45)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasantes
I thought the same....he has changed a bit ;)
And Ostbergs first time in MC
Weather in Saint-Bonnet-le-Froid - AccuWeather Forecast for Auvergne FranceQuote:
Originally Posted by Rasantes
Eurosport had something like nine hours of live coverage of that day that was on their website and it was fantastic to watch that weekend from Chicago. If only there was coverage like that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Instead since there's no TV coverage at all in the US since we can't even get outside channels I'm going to use the forum. Really, with so many people on site or watching a variety of programs it's just as good but without the video.
Posts to prevent cuts, like in the IRC/ERC ...
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Forecast: -8 degrees & snow for rally!
Like in the ERC/ERC?? In Ypres you don't see that, in Barum Rally it's also very rare to see things that prevent cutting. In Jänner there were these long poles everywhere (and sometimes poles to prevent cutting indeed), but aren't those longer poles just in order to see the road when there is fresh snow (nothing to do with the rally)? In Alsace (WRC) I've also seen similar things, to not let the road be destroyed. I've seen onboards from Finland (2011) with hay bales in several places to prevent cutting. It's not an IRC/ERC-thing... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Thats according to WRC.com ...
WRC @OfficialWRC Big posts stopping 'cuts' if anyone hits one it's going to hurt! Photo St Bonnet
Tommeke is right. Anti-cutting poles or other obstacles are common thing in most of asphalt events. The reason is that the edge of the road is very easy to destroy. They are used also in WRC if it is needed (Alsace sure and as Tom said I saw haybales for same use also in NORF). It depends on locals if they don't care about road damage or not. In Belgium such things are not used. Here they are (even in Barum but not everywhere).
The poles in Jänner were really of different purpose - only to show where the road is when there is a lot of new snow. That same poles were present in past editions of RMC too! Not everywhere but I remember them from Ardeche roads. In 2009 on stage Labatie d'Andaure (it is run this year) there was a pole of which seven cars broke their side mirrors. I have a photo in my flat but I'm not there now.
Poles must be fairly recent - I've been watching rallies since 1983 and only remember them appearing very recently and can only recall them on the IRC.
Are they to really to 'protect the road edges' or to stop mud and stones being dragged onto the asphalt and causing puntures to other cars ?
In Alsace 2011 they put them because in the previous year it was a muddy mess. In the recce Loeb damaged his Lancer trying to see how strong they are and if he would be able to cut them in the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
In the last hungarian IRC they put massive wooden logs. Some of them miraculously disappeared after the recce and local drivers posted stunning times in the first day. Later Turan hit one of them and it led him to a terrible roll.
I think that stage isn't run in the same direction since 2003, under the name of "Les Quatre Chemins-Sigale". I wonder when that iconic place will return to the WRC. Hope next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Someone once told me that's a way to save money in cleaning the roads after the events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC