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Personally, I am very satisfied with all seen on the video. And the sounds are not so bad.
Definitely, better than WRC2: More raw and aggressive. There could be room for Improvement though.
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I still think the DS3 sounds the same as in WRC 2, there is something box like with the sound. It's still far off the real engine sounds sadly. Has anyone figured out if you can tweek the car settings by the way?
Now I have played the demo a few times, both single stage and road to glory.
The first impressions of the new WRC 3:
The last 2 games in this serie I think is at least CRAP... But this one, I really like! I think as Iv saying before, that Milestone has something really good going on!!
I have very very high hopes for WRC 4!!
This game as of now is a good rally game, I think that this will beat Dirt 3 easy because this is a fine and "real" rally game.*
I play on PC mostly and I think that the graphics in this game is good, almost very good! But I hope that Milestone can do something more with the graphics in the future, because I think the graphics now is a bit to much catroon, is to much colour, its not quite lifelike. But its okey, good!!*
Then on PC I think its going to be much better then on PS3.
The physics are absolutly great if I compare this with Dirt 3, and absolutly great if I compere with WRC and WRC 2. I think this game will beat Dirt 3 in physics! Not near RBR but I think Milestone is on their way to do it in future!
Iv only play this now on my PS3 with a handcontrol but with my G27 and my PC I think it will be much better!*
But they still need to do it better, more lifelike physics.
Tarmac wheels on gravel should be much more slippery!!
One thing in "graphics" I would really would like Milestone to change and throw away is all the tiresmoke on tarmac roads... NOT good! Thats not real at all! End that please!
The dust should be much bigger and hang longer..., Now its to small and not real.
The damage to the car is great if you drive with "heavy" setup.
Now the sound! ;)
It sooo much better then the last 2 games I think.
When the DS3 WRC stand still, the engine sounds superb, really good sound BUT please let the sound be much much loader/higher!! More sound!!! Its to quiet!!!
Then under way when you drive, njeeee the sound is not realistic, its not the sound of an DS3 WRC. But its still good if you compere with WRC and WRC 2.
The Fiesta WRC is the same but the engine wraaall / sound is soo quiet. Thats really boring!
Then the Fiesta WRC has a more powerfull sound and more distinct!
I hope that Milestone can do something about that and fix more audio setup as in RBR, like fore example, Engine sound, incar sfx sound, co-driver sound and outside sfx like birds, people and more so that we can pic our sound setup ourself to get it as real as we want it.
Its little anti-lag sound yet, take that away please and even the backfire flames!
But its a big difference from the last games and thats good!
The tarmac rims on the DS3 looks very good and the DS3 WRC as in graphic made is beautiful! Great job! The Fiesta is good but its more job there I think!
A really great thing was that my car at single stage was stuck at a road bank for 5min... :D I was stuck when I went of the road! Thats nice!! It was on a gravel bank!! ;) thats real!
But the grass should NOT slow the car down only make it much more slippery!!
So the positive:
This is going to be a good game!
They need to work on the details on sound, physics and stage for the real realism! More people/fans, "arrows" in junction and more of the small details!
But over all, this was a good and happy experience!! For me who hated the last 2 games!
This will not beat RBR but they are getting there but Dirt 3 will be beatend when the game is all done I think! Dirt 3 is not a real rally game ofcourse but anyway!
The things I would love Milestone to reflect in for the future or change before realise:*
- in start of the stage, let the player be seated in the car a few seconds before the clock is start to counting down.
- let the graphics looks less cartoon then you will have it all!
- let ther be much higher car sounds insted for high outside sounds like people and more. The real WRC cars sounds very high! ;) or fix better sound setups for us to chose!
- work more on car setups all the time, do not stop with this thing and I hope for the complete game that we can do very much more to the car setup because in the demo we couldent do anything. Let us chose to stiff up and lower the car alot and of corse in the other direction. Because the Fiesta in Spain was like driving a old car with very soft suspension!
- I love that you almost put the anti-lag sound away but its still there - THROW IT AWAY! Its not there anymore in real life!
- Then the dust, tooo little!! Let it be much more and let it hang in there, because in replay it not lifelike, its too small clouds, its not hanging and when the car almost stops, its goes away direct!! The dust stops when the car stops!
- then the cars dont get dirty of the dust??? It dosent take many 100 meters before the car is all dusty in real!
- more camera veiws both when playing and as in replay! The cockpit view should be more near the steeringwheel or with the dashboard!
- the windows should look like windows, get dirty and so on. Now I dont see any window if you understand me.
- when driving with tarmac setup on gravel, it should be very slippery (understeering) and when gravel setup, very oversteering/slippery.
- let us be able to chose to turn music of in replays!
As I say, I will buy this and im sure that I will find this game very funny and nice to play, and you guys at Milestone is going to make really great WRC games in the future if you compete and fight to do it much better all the time. You are not quiet ther yet but you will if you work with ALL the small details to make the realism 150%!
I really didnt think that you would succeed with this but you proved me wrong! Work on all the small things and no one will beat you!
This is going to be fun and Im happy now! :) Thanks!
Sorry for my bad english!
Quite satisfied so far as almost everything has been improved (sound included) :p : Stages are as narrow as they can be, handling is excellent ,graphics, pace notes, physics and car damage very good !
Now Iv been listnen to the sound one again and compered to sound clips on youtube.
The sound of the DS3 and Fiesta WRC is almost if not exacly the same as in real when the cars stand still, Milestone should get the engine sound a bit higher thou..
Incar under the stages is ok but not as good as I hoped for. Its still a way to go incar when I compered this to real incar movies.
So they have succeed with the sound when the cars stand still but not in speed.
I hope they will get it better untill the realise.
But the demo is 1000 times better to the last 2 games, we can no longer compere WRC 3 with them I think!
Looking forward to you other guys fellings and reviews of the demo but I think this is pretty good!
Please update as before with news and stuff untill the realise!
Its a great forum!
A short review (as expected), but like the Ancient Greeks, used to say: 'Brevity Is the source of wit' ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
from what i've played of the Demo seems pretty good better than WRC2 anyways my only grumble is with the "Road to Glory" mode if i want to crash through boardsd and drift contests i'll Play DiRT3 all i want is an improved carrer mode from 2 with more room for customisation of sponsors and liveries. And leave all this exteme sports nonsense to Codemasters.
Posted this on Playstation Blog to Milestone Game Director Sebastien Pellicano :
Ciao Sebastien pino here again, just wanted to say that after playing the demo I am quite satisfied. The game has improved a lot in almost everything, my only complain is sound option. Let me explain : Being an old rallyfan and a former codriver I would like to hear engine-sound (and pace-note ofcourse)only when playing, not the outside sound. Everyday I visit 3 differents rallyforum plus the one I moderate myself and believe me, most people would like to have that option. As for the sound itself on the game isn’t as good as Dirt3 but I can live with that. My question is, would that be possible to add the option to switch off outside-sound and keep engine-sound only, before the game will be released ? If not, will you guys considering this in the next WRC4 ?
Thanks for your time
You guys can read it here
Wales rally GB!!!
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Have to say that the Rally GB stage looks pretty good there - including what I've found in the demo this game certainly looks a step up in terms of graphics and physics. Almost there - here's hoping WRC4 puts everything together and they get it 100% right!
Looks like Finland Is refreshed or totally redone!
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Reply from Game Director Sebastien Pellicano :
Hi pino,
glad to read you again. Regarding the sound you can manage the pacenote sound, the engine sound and the music changing the level as you prefer. Not the environmental sounds. Hope this is the answer you need.
S.P.
I was hoping we had the option to switch-off the outside sound and keep engine and pace-note only....hopefully they will add it to next game :)
pino, can you ask about the Mini 01A & B? (ie will there be both versions). Can you also post a picture of Sandell's car? Thanks in advance.
Lcd: thanks for all the updates!! Kerp them coming its fun! :) And as Finland! I really hope so and that Rally Finland really looks like we driving on finnish stages with nature, road types and all that!
Pino:
Can you please ask Seb a cuple of question / tips.
Get the cars much more dusty on gravel and quicker let the cars get dirty over all.
Let the Dust after the car hang in much longer and get the cloud much much bigger and now the dust stops when the car stops??
Tarmac smoke in turns, NOT REAL.
Let the cars sound much higher! Turn that lowest cars sound level up a great bit!!
Put all anti-lag away please.
Thanks!
Guys you can ask questions yourself, all you need is a PSN account :
WRC 3 FIA World Rally Championship Demo Revs Its Engines
Getting better and better!
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Any more new pics?? :)
If that's where they think Rally NZ is, i.e inside that red circle, they might want to do a bit more research.Quote:
Originally Posted by lcd
I like how each rally get's a difficulty rating
Pino: please ask seb my questions i wrote before! :) I'v tried to make myself an account but I only get error messages!! :( please?! :)
You seem to have a great talk with him! ;)
Hey pino, I have the same issues as Astro83. If it would not be too much trouble I would really appreciate it if you could ask my questions too please...
I just had the chance to play WRC3 demo for the XBOX!
That's exactly what I wanted from the official WRC game: Simulation based handling with a real rally atmoshere
from the presentation menus to the special stages! Handling, graphics, sounds, all perfectly done!
Can't wait for the full game! Gongratulations to all Milestone staff!
Lcd: the game looks great but it is things Milestone must develop in this game before the realise or in future for WRC 4. You cant say that the sound is perfect?? :)
The game is good as in demo version but its need more work in details for realism!
I always compare a game, with the previous ones of the series.
WRC3 looks It will be, by far the best of the series, since Milestone got the FIA license.
I expect of course WRC4 to be even better ;) And take the word 'perfect' as a figure of speach If you like :)
Astro & Plan9 I will post your questions later this evening ;)
Lcd: yea we think the same, wrc 3 cant be compered with the last 2. Because these games was aweful! But with that sad, wrc 3 looks to be a great and fun rallygame even possible a ok sim for ones!
Pino: thank you! Your a great person, man or woman!! ;) ;) ;)
Thats the only chans to get some changes for the better now or in the future! Milestone should have a own forum for these things! :)
Anyone fancy a little competition among those on here with the demo? Post your best time on both of the real rally stages so we can see what sort of times we should be aiming for!
It could be a fun thing to have going towards the release, good idea! Has anyone been able to alter car settings, or are they actually locked?
Back in the good ol' days in time trail things like this on the Simulations forum we used to copy the times so far and put in our time where it ranked on the table with the name next to it, so the next person who puts a time up place it just on top of mine in a table ;) I really cannot get to grips with the game yet. Way too much sliding, but getting better slowly. My best time is:
La Mussara
4:26.66 - Ian
I'll try the other stage now.
It seems that setups is locked sadly!
Update - cannot do the other stage without hitting every other barrier, though the Fiesta seems more balanced to me. I'll be interested to see other's pace.
La Mussara
4:26.66 - Ian
Road to Glory
1:14.51 - Ian
The handling Is very demanding. Wonder how more accurate can be, when altering the car set up options :)
I am having some hard times finding a good rhythm-Strugggling to get under 4:50!!!
No doubt, at the moment It's the most simlike rally game In the gaming business!
4:31.12 - First time I've played the game when not drunk. Would definitely like to be able to change the brake bias, it's way to skittish under braking.
Managed a 4:24.77 with a bit more practice.
Actually quite impressed. The stage seems like a good length and good design (there's some lovely flowing bits through Mussara), the handling is tricky but not so as to frustrate you, the pacenotes seem to be pretty accurate (one of my biggest complaints about DiRT3 is that the pacenotes aren't good enough for you to rely on them, you need to watch the map thing). The engine sounds are bad but not as bad as it first seemed from the videos, you can sort of put up with that because the rest of the game seems quite good.
La Mussara
4:24.77 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian
Road to Glory
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian
My best time so far 4:42:11 but haven't played much to be honest :p :
Just managed to pull a 4:23.69 out the bag.
Did you guys notice that there's an auto-braking thing that's on by default? Really annoys me when games have that, really basic stuff like that should only be in as an option for kids to turn on if they're struggling, not something that's a default setting.
I think that around 4:20 is possible for La Mussara but I really couldn't beat 1:14 on the Road to Glory one. I am struggling with the brakes massively and not got any rhythm. But as you rightly say Jan, the Mussara stage has some great sections, especially on the gravel. Good length too. Looking forward to the full game.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
edit: good effort Jan - I'll have another shot later to see if I can get there!
La Mussara
4:23.69 - Jan
4:26.66 - Ian
4:35.27 - lcd
4:42.11 - pino
Road to Glory
1:10.46 - Jan
1:14.51 - Ian
1:16.45 - lcd
Wow you guys are taking this seriously, I ve only had few run to discover the game. Must start to go faster then ;)
Haha with the end of the other Sim championships on here I make the most of any competition there is!Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
I will post my run when I get home tomorrow, haven't played the game for a couple of days now.
I am sure the car will be even more drivable when we can alter the brake bias, the power distrubution, the suspension and maybe the differentials.