M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

For a car manufacturer looking to put together a full-season campaign with two cars, yes.

But what if Bouffier was simply looking to pick up an extra round? I imagine that would be considerably cheaper. It's too late for Sweden, and Mexico would naturally be more expensive since there is a trans-Atlantic flight involved, but he would probably have enough time to strike up a deal for Portugal. And if he performs in any ERC rounds he is doing, that would attract attention, too. And we have seen people willing to loan out their cars for events. Didn't Tamrazov do that last year? Maybe that is another avenue Bouffier could pursue.

Going round-by-round is not ideal, but if it's all you have got, then it will have to make do.

What are you talking about Prisoner Monkeys? Look at Ford, look at Mini/Prodrive failure. No human being is able to find a sponsor for this sport. Even Bouffier's dog is running out of ideas! ;)


Scooby-Doo found a sponsor for Bouffier

source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url


It seems almost as a movie script, but the dog of the 35 -year-old Bryan Bouffier is the reason the last two years the French pilot to find a sponsor and takes part in the Monte Carlo Rally .

"This is a very nice story. It all began in 2005 when I had a big dog . Was 80 -pound, like a Scooby - Doo. We called him Achu . Was 80 kg eating only chicken - explains the backstory Bryan Bouffier . - I got him when he was only 6 months and the only thing I wanted to do was to wean him to eat chicken. "

Achu flatly refused any other food except chicken and it turns out to be a big problem, even purely financial.

" I was shopping from the local supermarket, but the amount per month was really huge. They worked with a company specializing in the production of food of birds. It's called Royal Bernard . So first I made a call to the company asking if I could get the meat at a lower price, but initially I got a negative answer. "

Although disappointed, Bouffier goes straight to the head office to seek discounts direct from the bosses, not by the owner of the supermarket.

" We discussed the price and I got a chicken at a lower price - explains Bouffier . - Then in the last two years we met again and again getting my chicken . "

In 2012 the intention of Bouffier is to participate in Monte Carlo , but for a full budget he still needs more sponsors.

" I talked to the boss to see if the company is interested to help me. We arranged a meeting. The conversation lasted ten minutes and he became my biggest sponsor this year . The guy is not rally into motorsports, has three racing horses, but he trusted me , he said okay and realized that in 2013 I want to drive WRC, and he said he would help again. Here's how a year ago I could hire DS3 WRC, and now the Fiesta RS WRC. "

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What are you talking about Prisoner Monkeys? Look at Ford, look at Mini/Prodrive failure. No human being is able to find a sponsor for this sport. Even Bouffier's dog is running out of ideas! ;)


Scooby-Doo found a sponsor for Bouffier

source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url


It seems almost as a movie script, but the dog of the 35 -year-old Bryan Bouffier is the reason the last two years the French pilot to find a sponsor and takes part in the Monte Carlo Rally .

"This is a very nice story. It all began in 2005 when I had a big dog . Was 80 -pound, like a Scooby - Doo. We called him Achu . Was 80 kg eating only chicken - explains the backstory Bryan Bouffier . - I got him when he was only 6 months and the only thing I wanted to do was to wean him to eat chicken. "

Achu flatly refused any other food except chicken and it turns out to be a big problem, even purely financial.

" I was shopping from the local supermarket, but the amount per month was really huge. They worked with a company specializing in the production of food of birds. It's called Royal Bernard . So first I made a call to the company asking if I could get the meat at a lower price, but initially I got a negative answer. "

Although disappointed, Bouffier goes straight to the head office to seek discounts direct from the bosses, not by the owner of the supermarket.

" We discussed the price and I got a chicken at a lower price - explains Bouffier . - Then in the last two years we met again and again getting my chicken . "

In 2012 the intention of Bouffier is to participate in Monte Carlo , but for a full budget he still needs more sponsors.

" I talked to the boss to see if the company is interested to help me. We arranged a meeting. The conversation lasted ten minutes and he became my biggest sponsor this year . The guy is not rally into motorsports, has three racing horses, but he trusted me , he said okay and realized that in 2013 I want to drive WRC, and he said he would help again. Here's how a year ago I could hire DS3 WRC, and now the Fiesta RS WRC. "

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Ha ha, thats' brilliant ! :laugh:

I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

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I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

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100% true

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I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

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Speaks volumes about their choise of drivers :devil:

haha, this is a great story, Jarek, thanks for sharing :)

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I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

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Speaks volumes about their choise of drivers :devil:

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Dont write young Evans off yet, Malcolm is trying to invest for the future with him and I think the lad is well worth the punt

I am still a bit worried about Evans. He stepped (or was forced to step up) up to highest level but he should have stayed on a lower level for some time. Much easier/cheaper way to gain experience and less pressure. WRC2 season + some more familiar events with WRC would have been ideal for him. I hope he can handle the pressure.

Wilson is totally useless atdriver choices

A good example of this is letting hirvoslow back in the team

Evans is a however is a good move and I would love to see him beating hirvoslow regularly

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I am still a bit worried about Evans. He stepped (or was forced to step up) up to highest level but he should have stayed on a lower level for some time. Much easier/cheaper way to gain experience and less pressure. WRC2 season + some more familiar events with WRC would have been ideal for him. I hope he can handle the pressure.

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I reckon that in lower levels you can only harden wrong habits. To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers, everything else is pushing you away. About the pressure, it depends on your mentality.

... and that is why all fast drivers who recently managed to get into WRC circus came from IRC (Neuville, Mikkelsen, Meeke, Hänninen).

... and that's why Bouffier finished second in his second ever WRC start and first ever Fiesta start after plenty of seasons in IRC/ERC.

Facts prove You wrong.

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To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers.

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Matthew Wilson for example...

I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who benefited by being thrown pretty much straight into a WRC programme with a WRCar.

Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

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Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

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Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

I think you can benefit jumping into WRC straight ahead only if you're worthy enough. Let's see if that's the case with Evans.

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Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

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Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

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If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:

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Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

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Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

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I have edited it ;)

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I think you can benefit jumping into WRC straight ahead only if you're worthy enough. Let's see if that's the case with Evans.

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Of course I meant it for proper drivers. In WRC you can more quickly show if you are worthy or not. If you are not and make some achievements at lower levels you can only mislead yourself and others and become the next Tlustak or Betti.

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To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers.

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If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:

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With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

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Like Wilson, Rautenbach..

This didn't even work for a talented driver like Mikkelsen. He had to take a "step back" to IRC to get his act together.

What's with these quotes, I didn't said that :D

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Like Wilson, Rautenbach..

This didn't even work for a talented driver like Mikkelsen. He had to take a "step back" to IRC to get his act together.

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You really know nothing about Mikklesons career do you?! He didnt step back to IRC; he went right back to the very basics and competed in the Subaru Norway cup as his dad ran out of money and his manager made him work for his seats.

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You really know nothing about Mikklesons career do you?! He didnt step back to IRC; he went right back to the very basics and competed in the Subaru Norway cup as his dad ran out of money and his manager made him work for his seats.

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Yes, I was aware of that. But the point remains that starting off very young pretty much straight into WRC with a WRCar didn't work for him.

I am still waiting for Slowson to give a proper example but he doesn't like backing up his sweeping statements with facts or reasoning.

I can't get to anybody who started very young in WRC car and ended as world class driver. Novikov is the closest but still far from fighting for championship.

All the recently important drivers came either from JWRC (including PSD, Academy) or IRC (PWRC in case of Latvala I think). Mikkelsen and Latvala tried WRC early but both stepped back before coming back.

Malcolm Wilson interview by Rallye-magazin.de (translated) explaining how Fiesta R5 sales have enabled M-Sport to continue in the WRC ... :) Also how R5 is the future, the Fiesta 2.4 and RallyCross ... :eek:

WILSON: R5 WAS ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL

For M-Sport the Ford Fiesta R5 is a complete success. Without this vehicle, the WRC program with the World Rally Car would not have been possible, as team principal Malcolm Wilson says. Also in the future the car will play a major role.

"The R5 project has enabled us to stay in the championship at the highest level. From a commercial point of view it was a great success, "said M-Sport boss Malcolm Wilson. "With Peugeot and Citroën now embarking also, I believe that there is a large market for R5-cars. We are fully booked until mid-June and get everyday new demands. There is a bright future for these cars. We also develop a R5 +, which is a R5 with WRC Turbo and 34mm restrictor, which can be used in national rallies. Even this we have been ten orders. I think the R5 has opened many doors for us. It is a car that will be used in national races, at the international level and it's just one second per mile slower than a WRC and at only 40 percent of the cost. Personally, I think that's the way the sport should go. We need to reduce costs further. "

While Wilson is facing a major challenge in 2015 to plan a new World Rally Car and finance, developed his team further expansion of the current fiestas. It's not just about the R5 +, but also to the Fiesta in 2400 , which is powered by a 325-hp 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine. "These are all wishes of our customers," said Wilson. "We must do everything to survive in this business. So we look at all possible areas. The worst thing that can happen is that these cars are in the garage and not be moved. Come the vehicles used, then replacement parts are required, and of course we also need this business. But of course we must be successful. Are we not more, this enormous impact will have on our business. "

The issue of Rallycross is interesting for Wilson. M-Sport built for Ken Block on a vehicle and the competitiveness of the car let other drivers attention. "Rallycross is something we need to look. We think about owning a car that we can use with Ken and some other people, hopefully. "

Even in the smaller RC4 Class M-Sport remains active, although the FIA ??future Citroën chose as a supplier to the Junior World Cup. "We knew that this decision would come. Frankly, we were at the point to sell our entire R2 cars to Chile, because there is a appropriate championship, "said Wilson. "Then suddenly there was the possibility with DMACK. They wanted to make a difference and we have a better championship on its feet than before. It was not to work against the FIA, the DMACK-Challenge came out of nowhere and was bagged in a few hours. "

Whether he can count on the support of Ford in the near future? "I can not give an answer. When you think of the current economic situation of Ford, then you can understand that they do not look so long after the World Rally Championship or any other motor sport until their financial situation has improved significantly, "said Wilson.

On WRC-live TV I heard Malcolm saying M-Sport are gearing up for 2015 with new homologations. Really good news!!

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Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?

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Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?[/quote]
I can't think of example now because at WRC level you need a lot of money and usually boys with money lack talent, while talented boys have pocket money and struggle with years in lower divisions until somebody like them and decide to invest in them. Talented ones become big ones not because they went through lower levels, but despite that. I have examples in local championships where guys begin with Evo and in their first-second season are equal to or even beat with a little others with 10-15 years of experience.

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Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?

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I can't think of example now because at WRC level you need a lot of money and usually boys with money lack talent, while talented boys have pocket money and struggle with years in lower divisions until somebody like them and decide to invest in them. Talented ones become big ones not because they went through lower levels, but despite that. I have examples in local championships where guys begin with Evo and in their first-second season are equal to or even beat with a little others with 10-15 years of experience.[/quote]

LOL... yes comparing village event nobodys with WRC level drivers is pretty accurate...you cannot think of anyone because there is not a single one.

you should go to bed on time instead of writing on the pc after midnight

I just wonder. Does MSport give all drivers same pieces (like engineparts, gears, suspension) in their WRC-cars nowadays?

Seems the Fiestas in top 10 are all the same except for drivers...

M-Sport to expand and create road cars !

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/mu...ria-1.1137974#

M-Sport new developments

Wilson will build the engine in house, so no more Pipo Moteur
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes...eil/index.html
From the article I didn't full understand (I don't speak german) the part about the back of gearbox paddles, they could use now more parts derived from series cars? thanks

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Malcolm Wilson interview by Rallye-magazin.de (translated) explaining how Fiesta R5 sales have enabled M-Sport to continue in the WRC ... :) Also how R5 is the future, the Fiesta 2.4 and RallyCross ... :eek:

WILSON: R5 WAS ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL

For M-Sport the Ford Fiesta R5 is a complete success. Without this vehicle, the WRC program with the World Rally Car would not have been possible, as team principal Malcolm Wilson says. Also in the future the car will play a major role.

"The R5 project has enabled us to stay in the championship at the highest level. From a commercial point of view it was a great success, "said M-Sport boss Malcolm Wilson. "With Peugeot and Citroën now embarking also, I believe that there is a large market for R5-cars. We are fully booked until mid-June and get everyday new demands. There is a bright future for these cars. We also develop a R5 +, which is a R5 with WRC Turbo and 34mm restrictor, which can be used in national rallies. Even this we have been ten orders. I think the R5 has opened many doors for us. It is a car that will be used in national races, at the international level and it's just one second per mile slower than a WRC and at only 40 percent of the cost. Personally, I think that's the way the sport should go. We need to reduce costs further. "

While Wilson is facing a major challenge in 2015 to plan a new World Rally Car and finance, developed his team further expansion of the current fiestas. It's not just about the R5 +, but also to the Fiesta in 2400 , which is powered by a 325-hp 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine. "These are all wishes of our customers," said Wilson. "We must do everything to survive in this business. So we look at all possible areas. The worst thing that can happen is that these cars are in the garage and not be moved. Come the vehicles used, then replacement parts are required, and of course we also need this business. But of course we must be successful. Are we not more, this enormous impact will have on our business. "

The issue of Rallycross is interesting for Wilson. M-Sport built for Ken Block on a vehicle and the competitiveness of the car let other drivers attention. "Rallycross is something we need to look. We think about owning a car that we can use with Ken and some other people, hopefully. "

Even in the smaller RC4 Class M-Sport remains active, although the FIA ??future Citroën chose as a supplier to the Junior World Cup. "We knew that this decision would come. Frankly, we were at the point to sell our entire R2 cars to Chile, because there is a appropriate championship, "said Wilson. "Then suddenly there was the possibility with DMACK. They wanted to make a difference and we have a better championship on its feet than before. It was not to work against the FIA, the DMACK-Challenge came out of nowhere and was bagged in a few hours. "

Whether he can count on the support of Ford in the near future? "I can not give an answer. When you think of the current economic situation of Ford, then you can understand that they do not look so long after the World Rally Championship or any other motor sport until their financial situation has improved significantly, "said Wilson.

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The only thing missing in the M-sport deck is a R3. Why is that one missing, and are there plans?

any news on driver change next year???

no

Some says here in norway that østberg is driving a ford next year. If it in the "factory"team, a sub team or private i dont know.

Next year 'works team' is Tanak and Evans

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Malcolm looking to continue M-Sport's winning ways in 2015....:rolleyes: