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Originally Posted by dimviii

You really think that Petter can challenge Ogier in asphalt? Just remember in Germany when both Sebs were pushing.

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I think Petter can yes! if his car, team, lack of testing, lack of anti-cutting pole removing team ;) can? not so sure...

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

If you believe that Petter now has a better engine than Germany then possibly so. Ogier has to be going as fast as he can to build up a margine for error, he cannot afford to be doing just enough when there are still 17 stages to go and no benefit from not being 1st on the road

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Again remember Germany?
He haven t got to push hard.He is already 1st.He needs to control the pace and not to push for making a big gap.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Again remember Germany?
He haven t got to push hard.He is already 1st.He needs to control the pace and not to push for making a big gap.

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We shall see after stage 7!

Watching the live stream but no proper sound, only get RR??? Anybody else?

10 minutes for the long stage

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Originally Posted by noel157

Watching the live stream but no proper sound, only get RR??? Anybody else?

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same for me and is very annoying

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Originally Posted by Marre

if you have the most points at the end of the season you deserve it, doesnt matter if you havent won a single rally. that is just my opinion.

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But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.

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Originally Posted by Marre

N.O.T and you aparently hate Hirvonen :o , but im cheering for him all the way.

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I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

We shall see after stage 7!

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There is no need to see after stage 7.
stage 6 was the same as stage 2. Sordo and Petter were faster at second pass than in 1st pass.So road condition no bad.
Ogier while he had won at stage 2,when pepeated he was slower by 4,1 sec.
Petter was faster at second pass 2,1 sec and Sordo 1,5
Thats why i said cruising mode.

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Originally Posted by MikeD

But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.



I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

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So what to do? have an jury giving the championship to the most worthy??

If Mikko wins it he is worthy! And it is not like he is some spoiled brat getting the best car that a monkey could win with...

Hold your breath guys, Mikko is not yet able to be the champion. Let's wait discussing this matter untill the time they are at almost equal points, wich is not yet now.

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Originally Posted by MikeD

But for sure not my opinion. Points are only a little part of making a champion. The highest level of motorsport now and then has to suffer from a poor champion. In F1 it has been Mike Hawthorn in 1958, Mario Andretti in 1978, Keke Rosberg 1982 and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997. In MotoGP it was Nicky Hayden in 2006 and Keny Roberts Jr in 2000. What they have in common are that lucky one year and in the rest of their career, they were always beaten.



I don't hate Hirvonen, I just don't think he's worthy of being Champion ... sinmple as that

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Mmm you could be correct ..... but it would be nice to see some else win . Would you not think that Peter was a bit lucky in 2003 when Carlos's car stopped for 30 odd seconds in Spain that year and he got a few extra points ?

Look at Petter's time at splits

Petter 5.8 faster than Mikko at split 3!!

Ogier is reacting now, he is now suddenly 3.3 sec faster as Mikko.

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

Ogier is reacting now, he is now suddenly 3.3 sec faster as Mikko.

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it is obvious that he controls the rally without risking

Or is it just Hirvonen being so slow, if you look at JML's split times you should think like that.

the coverage is very nice....although it cuts off from time to time.

Mikko is useless....

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

Or is it just Hirvonen being so slow, if you look at JML's split times you should think like that.

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Yes Ogier being 3rd at road he knows only Mikkos splits ''in time''.To know the splits from crews behind him he has to wait some time(2 min differences from start) When he knew Latvalas/Petters splits he reacted.
Mikko of course is very slow another more time.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

the coverage is very nice....although it cuts off from time to time.

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It's good, it's free (at the moment) so can't complain. Yep, I get cuts too.

Can't explain why Mikko is so much slow :\

Ogier playing mind games...

they only bad thing about the coverage is they have the same people as in the radio doing the coverage....

Ogier bluffing about his engine concerns, paranoid or could this rally still have a fair few twists and turns to give.
Am really enjoying this coverage, and a ver'pretty event to boot !

Ogier again complains about the engine. Let's wait and see if it lasts whole rally...

Solberg in the lead...

Petter is in the lead!

Ostberg hit something the car is all over the place....

the covrage is barely watchable with those radio people talking all the time......its off for me. Bring the eurosport guys in.

Maybe Ogier's engine is set to "safe mode" to avoid duplicate of Loeb's problem, hence not risk the Manu title? Or did we hear any details of Loebs engine failure yet?

I don`t like it also, if I wanted rally radio, I would have switched it on. Not very usefull info from them.

rally radio offers nothing with those people they have....

switched off also for me.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

There is no need to see after stage 7.
stage 6 was the same as stage 2. Sordo and Petter were faster at second pass than in 1st pass.So road condition no bad.
Ogier while he had won at stage 2,when pepeated he was slower by 4,1 sec.
Petter was faster at second pass 2,1 sec and Sordo 1,5
Thats why i said cruising mode.

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So I suppose that Ogier has now cruised to 2nd place and will soon cruise to 3rd unless he steps it up, I would suggest your summation of the situation is flawed, the top 3 will all be going flat out as is Latvala. Road position is actually worse as more cars traverse the non-existent cuts. When Sordo is running higher in the order tomorrow he will be quicker still

someone tell WRR people to sh@@ up for time to time. its getting very annoying

the rally is still long...we have to wait and see....

I want sordo to win this !!!

Goooooo Petter!!!

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Originally Posted by Leon

someone tell WRR people to sh@@ up for time to time. its getting very annoying

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they are plain useless....never seen people talking all the time without any meaning...

its a waste of those 500.000 when you have such annoying individuals spoiling the very good video coverage.

Loeb in the retirements list:
World Rally Championship - Results - Rallye de France Alsace
Does that mean that he won't start tomorrow?

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Originally Posted by tolis

Loeb in the retirements list:
World Rally Championship - Results - Rallye de France Alsace
Does that mean that he won't start tomorrow?

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Yes.