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Back on topic... Mikko did something different this time :D
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he went off, another disappointment for the finn, i'm sorry but if he hadn't won the title back in 2009 when he actually had a chance, i don't think it will happen for hime ever. He's unable to challenge Ogier, Ostberg, Novikov(when he doesn't crash), and Jari-Matti Latvala,not to mention Thierry Nueville (for this rally anyway).
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Today he challenged (that´s good) but learned the hard way when he passed the limit. Keep on going Mikko and he willl win in NORF.
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We are talking about Mikko, I think he should have learned everything by now. Game over at the end of this year I guess.
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The limits always differ. You can´t learn, only push to the limit everytime. Even Loeb was beyond the limits sometimes.
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always been best of the rest
mikko- an overated driver trying to keep up with the top guys, think back on the top teams he has been pushed into
subaru,ford etc. Loeb even beat him driving with one hand,he only gets a result when there is a few retirements
making him a big fish in a small pond.
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If Citroen retire the wrc where mikko will find a seat with this season??
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If this season ends with no wins for Mikko or Dani then that will decide matters for Citroen. They will withdraw from WRC and there will be be 2 unemployed guys trying to buy a ride. M-Sport won't be offering a paid drive. Hyundai will have their team already contracted and I don't see VW offering their possible 4th car to anyone but Thierry Neuville. How different would this season have been if Citroen's decisions had resulted in an Ogier / Neuville team.
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
If this season ends with no wins for Mikko or Dani then that will decide matters for Citroen. They will withdraw from WRC and there will be be 2 unemployed guys trying to buy a ride. M-Sport won't be offering a paid drive. Hyundai will have their team already contracted and I don't see VW offering their possible 4th car to anyone but Thierry Neuville. How different would this season have been if Citroen's decisions had resulted in an Ogier / Neuville team.
Ogier at Ford WRT would have been very interesting as well!
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Ford made an offer in Ogier in the end of 2011 season but it was only for 1 year so he rejected it and petter solberg took the seat.
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Ford made an offer in Ogier in the end of 2011 season but it was only for 1 year so he rejected it and petter solberg took the seat.
This is a little off topic, but my understanding was that Ford hadn't committed to 2012 at the time and that's why Ogier didn't take the deal. Either way, I would have loved to have seen Ogier in Ford last year. The Fiesta was fast and Ogier would have been able to compete with Loeb imo.
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Originally Posted by 6789
Ogier at Ford WRT would have been very interesting as well!
It would have been interesting in 2012 battling it out with Loeb, but this year he would have been dominant even with a Fiesta IMO
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Ford also offered contract to Ogier at the end of 2010 with twice bigger salary, but he decided to stay loyal to citroen who promised him equal status.
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Originally Posted by SlowSon
Ford also offered contract to Ogier at the end of 2010 with twice bigger salary, but he decided to stay loyal to citroen who promised him equal status.
I wasn't aware that this had happened. Goes a long way to explaining the anger SO felt at the 2011 treatment - bet he is doubly happy this year! Stepping into SL vs territory I hope Ogier has got the WDC by Alsace so he can give us a flat out contest ( don't think we'll see that from Mikko ever again)
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I read it in an interview with Malcom Wilson, I think somewhere around the middle of 2011.
This is all I can find now: Loeb Tells Ogier to Move to Ford
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Something different tihis time...
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Something different this time (for sure)
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Yep, perfectly visible in UK :) . Mikko must hope that BBQ racing doesn't get wrecked by manufacturer self-interest!
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Retired Citroen driver mr. Loeb is preparing himself for an uphill battle. Meanwhile in Finland, his protegé is gonna go downhill...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...69430448_o.jpg
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There is no doubt in my mind after what I read between the lines in the news regarding Citroën and their WTCC participation, that if there are Citroëns in the WRC next year it will not be factory backed but run by PH-Sport with Abu Dhabi backing. One driver will be Al Qassimi and the other will be the best option available. I doubt that Hirvonen will be retained, but Sordo could due to Spain still being Citroëns 3rd or 4th most important market. There could be a French future talent which could be nursed towards a possible Peugeot entry (which I still believe won’t happen). But all in all, then Citroën in the WRC is coming to an end.
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They would be stupid to call Finland a "crunch rally". He bloody well ought to be fast there.
Maybe they can try to get Neuville back?
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Originally Posted by RS
They would be stupid to call Finland a "crunch rally". He bloody well ought to be fast there.
Maybe they can try to get Neuville back?
Dont forget Kubica....
I believe he will be in a wrc car next year
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Originally Posted by MikeD
There is no doubt in my mind after what I read between the lines in the news regarding Citroën and their WTCC participation, that if there are Citroëns in the WRC next year it will not be factory backed but run by PH-Sport with Abu Dhabi backing. One driver will be Al Qassimi and the other will be the best option available. I doubt that Hirvonen will be retained, but Sordo could due to Spain still being Citroëns 3rd or 4th most important market. There could be a French future talent which could be nursed towards a possible Peugeot entry (which I still believe won’t happen). But all in all, then Citroën in the WRC is coming to an end.
I agree. I think there might be a 3rd prostitute car for pay drivers as well.
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Why would any team hire him for next year? Look at the result this year... Any driver coming from sabbatical (Meeke, Loeb) can do better. If there is any justice in WRC, Mikko is going to a deserved retirement after 2013
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Meeke was faster, maybe not more reliable. But if he can after 1,5 years absense from WRC outpace Mikko, then M is not WRC material anymore
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Regardless of Meeke's speed v Mikko what this rally has shown Matton is that he is wasting a car with MH on tarmac. Citroen should trial a possible replacement in Spain - neither Dani or Mikko have the ability to deliver WDC.
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Regardless of Meeke's speed v Mikko what this rally has shown Matton is that he is wasting a car with MH on tarmac. Citroen should trial a possible replacement in Spain - neither Dani or Mikko have the ability to deliver WDC.
No, but as second (or third) team drivers they still make it worth hiring.
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Regardless of Meeke's speed v Mikko what this rally has shown Matton is that he is wasting a car with MH on tarmac. Citroen should trial a possible replacement in Spain - neither Dani or Mikko have the ability to deliver WDC.
Mikko was nominated as No.1 driver prior the season and therefore can not be replaced unless he is ill/injured or unable to drive for some higher reason.
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Originally Posted by Mirek
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Regardless of Meeke's speed v Mikko what this rally has shown Matton is that he is wasting a car with MH on tarmac. Citroen should trial a possible replacement in Spain - neither Dani or Mikko have the ability to deliver WDC.
Mikko was nominated as No.1 driver prior the season and therefore can not be replaced unless he is ill/injured or unable to drive for some higher reason.
Thanks M - I had overlooked that point. Mysterious virus about to arise?
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Sorry news article only in finnish. How can he say, his speed has improved? He was supposed to be the title contender, and now happy with that pace. Disgrace.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutise ... i-parempaa
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Hirvonen is a very strange driver... i remember him in the private subarus and the renault s1600 to be crazy...then he moved into the official subaru and was a moving disaster...then at ford he showed some amazing speed... then from 2009 onwards a quitter... very strange person.
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Please Citroen, someone else next year.
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I hope to see him back with a Ford next year. Probably that will wake him up a bit.
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Originally Posted by Miika
Please Citroen, someone else next year.
:D
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'Mikko to M-Sport next year' says the Finnish tabloid(s). A fresh new start.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ralli/art-1288620692462.html
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Rolled the car in GB this morning. Sordo might finish in front of him in the championship!
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Mikko really needs a fresh start next year. Only Ford could bring him that, hopefully.
