Yeah I agree, it's the best way to learn, the drivers who can drive slow cars fast are always better drivers than people like Wilson who just jump straight into a big car.
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Yeah I agree, it's the best way to learn, the drivers who can drive slow cars fast are always better drivers than people like Wilson who just jump straight into a big car.
Nice little interview with Mikkelsen here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88974
On gravel he thinks the Fiesta and Fabia are on the same level but on tarmac the Fabia is ahead.
And he thinks nothing about the 207 ??? :p :
Edit: in fact he never drove the 207 he can speak only about what he tried :mark:
You should be so lucky! ;-) Have you noticed that Wilks is better not comparing his current car to the previous one?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
He who pays the piper calls the tune.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
There may be an element of truth in that, to be fair though he did point out he drove the cars with different tyres. On the other hand I can't think of any evidence to say he is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Hehe, every interview or press release is the best possible evidence if it suits You but just a rubbish if not. Think a bit before You ridicule Yourself, please. Everyone can search Your previous posts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Andersson to drive full IRC season for Proton. Don't know if it's been written before.
http://www.teknikensvarld.se/motorsp...2011/index.xml
If Atkinson drives for Proton as well, they will have the best line-up for the 2011 season. (but not the best car, I know...)
To the czech guys here especially Mirek or Pluto, Autosport.cz FB page: Bryan Bouffier by měl za Peugeot France kromě Monte startovat i v devíti dalších soutěžích IRC 2011.
Means that he signed for nine other IRC rallies if that's right this is great news !
Yep, it seems Bouffier will do 10 IRC rounds in Peugeot this season.
Good news!
Superb!
But Atkinson will be doing APRC - originally there should have been only McRae, but they have changed it, they will be both doing Asia-Pacific and the second driver for IRC is yet unknown - they are still searching... no idea who it might be...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
It isnt sure Proton will do FULL season, ALL events...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
Not so sure about the best line-up. Andersson has crashed again in this rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
I don´t see that as a crash. It was a large stone that was under some leaves when cutting a corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza
Maybe other cars could broke the suspension if they hit the same stone
IRC rally radio with Olivier Quensel said that Petter will be back for Peugeot in another IRC round, possibly Corsica.
Petter hungry for revenge? Bring it on!! Nice to see him back in IRC for more rallyes.
Btw, IRC drivers are no pushovers if we can conclude anything from this years Monte
That's good news. I can imagine seeing Kimi on some IRC events too...Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Is Peugeot France providing the whole budget for Bouffier, or does Peugeot Polen have some sharing too? And does it mean Sarrazin will NOT have his championship try?
Sarrazin really deserves a chance in the IRC - I honestly think he could win the championship. He was one of, if not the fastest driver in Monte this year and the past couple of years too. He could win tarmac rounds and he isn't exactly incompetent on gravel too. However his commitment to Le Mans seems to be (arguably) holding him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Great news - maybe part of the deal Solberg negotiated to get a DS3. With it being just a simple tarmac round I can see him winning that if he has no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
IRC drivers aren't pushovers no, but I don't think Petter did much worse than I expected. He was 2nd before the snow chaos despite a rubbish first stage where he lost 30s, and had alternator issues and nothing to fight for this evening on the Turini. I think all this has shown is that Monte is a rally for specialists, and Petter is definately NOT a Monte specialist!Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
What for?! IRC is better..
'What for' what? If aimed at my post, I don't understand the question!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
You haven't been following his career much I guess. Check the profile http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?profile=166Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Truth is that he's really slow on gravel and on tarmac he only ever did well in Monte and then in Spain on Michelin tires (works subarus were on Pirelli).
Even if he did whole IRC he would have no chance to win the championship.
Mikkelsen, Kopecky and Wilks are much faster than him on gravel and 2 of these also about as fast on tarmac.
Well, I have followed his career for over 10 years but I suppose that doesn't matter ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ridder
He's not great on gravel, but he'd get 5-8th places I think - around Magalhaes pace. But tarmac events dominate this years IRC and his tarmac pace is great. He should have won the 2009 Monte, had the most stage wins this year and has come 4th twice, 6th and 8th in the WRC with an Impreza that wasn't a good tarmac car when his experience was low. I think he could challenge for wins in every tarmac event except Barum. Just my opinion.
His tarmac pace in the Rallye du Var 2010 was very poor and he is nowhere on gravel, just as as example Gilles Panizzi in the past. We all know that Panizzi was very fast on tarmac, but Sarrazin is only really fast in the Monte-Carlo. I am agree with the comment from ridder about Sarrazin.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
My comment was aimed to guys who thought that WRC drivers should win their hands down against IRC "B-class" drivers. This was more of a praise towards IRC guys and I actually think that Petter did well until Friday's night stages. It's always nice to see him on stages and trying to give his best everytime. Waiting for Petter's return to IRC this year, he has a lot to prove and this adds excitement :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Loix, Sarrazin, Vouilloz, Kopecky, Gardemeister, Delecour are all exWRC drivers so I never kinda got the IRC vs WRC drivers debate.
Think it comes from Hanninen+Meeke beating those exWRC drivers and some people claiming that they would beat Loeb etc. and then other people using the cheap argument of "B-drivers".
- Hanninen and Meeke are IMO on the same level as the top 6 WRC drivers (Latvala, Solberg, Ogier, Hirvonen, Sordo) Loeb is a bit different though.
- the mentioned exWRC drivers did drive quite a few rallies in WRC so there are plenty of opportunities to compare.
- Wilks is usually around 5-6th place in IRC if there's some competition
- Basso seems only fast on smooth tarmac/hairpins rallies, like most of Italian pilots
- Bouffier seems to be a bit behind Hanninen even on tarmac which is his best surface
Loix IS A 2nd CLASS DRIVER, suspended by a works team and replaced by Robert or Rovanpera, at Mitsubishi totally outpaced by his colleague, at Hyundai not able to outpace Schwarz, another 2nd class driver. Currently serves Loix as a benchmark to me - who beats him regularly with a distance, is in my eyes "qualified to do WRC" (as Meeke or Hanninen) - who can´t, stays at his level... (Kopecky, Bouffier, Wilks). Just now I´m looking for the comparison with Mikkelsen, I´m quite sure he would join the first two...Quote:
Originally Posted by ridder
It wasn't too bad - he had a lot of issues and a puncture, and yet still finished close to Bouffier who is French champion and has more experience in the car. Also, comparing him to Panizzi is a compliment...he could have won the WRC based on tarmac rallies alone. Sarrazin could do a similar thing in the IRC as the new points system heavily favours winners. Sarrazin could (not would necessarily) win Monte, Corsica, San Remo and possibly another round. This plus a couple of 4ths could win him the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza
"Poor pace" of Sarrazin in rallye du Var ???? Is it a joke ???? :crazy:
Even in the Citroën DS3 at Critérium des Cévennes he had very good run cloth to Manu Guigou, hampered by a puncture and a final mechanical issue forcing him to go out late(so penalties) :rolleyes:
By the way, apparently FULL IRC season for Bryan Bouffier :bounce: :bounce:
Reasonable analysis. That´s why I agree with the bonuses for the gravel rallyes in the end and this is also why (together with the fact that there is a lot of tarmac "almost specialists" this year who will steel the victories from each other) I believe Mikkelsen will be the winner this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
I sort of agree, however I don't think Mikkelsen will get many podiums on tarmac rallies other than Ypres and Barum possibly where he has experience. But you are right that by winning Cyprus and Scotland he could get 87.5 points just from those two events and this could win him the whole thing. I think it depends what rallies Hanninen and Solberg may come back to do as they are likely to be right at the top of the timesheets and possibly take points off the contenders - especially if Juho does Scotland and steals the win from Mikkelsen. Unlikely Skoda will do that against their own driver though!Quote:
Originally Posted by FabiaFan
Chris Atkinson wil concentrate on the Asia-Pacific program of Proton? Together with Alister McRae he will be the Asia-team. So then who will be PG's teammate in the European-team? With the majority of tarmac rallies, a tarmac specialist with be a good option.
Does it make a difference at Proton?!? They could easily hire me, the final result will be the same...!!! :-DDDQuote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
As it puts in Juho Häninnen's web page, seems to be that it rejects to run in Jordan Rally (the calendar that appears they are dates of 2011, not of 2010). Might it take part in the Rally Islas Canarias that apparently he liked last year?
http://www.juhohanninen.com/fi/etusivu/
I think it is more related to the rough nature of that rally. remeber.In 2010 only one or was it two S2000 finished it without superally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio-Rallymax
One of the bussiest man around in 2011 will be Fred Miclotte, the navigator of Dennis Kuipers (11x WRC) and Freddy Loix (7x IRC). But he will have a class with Jordan (Kuipers) and Islas Canarias (Loix)
19-23 jan: Monte Carlo Rally > Loix - IRC - Skoda fabia S20000
11-13 feb: Swedisch Rally > Kuipers - WRC - Ford Fiesta WRC
4- 6 mrt: Rally Mexico > Kuipers
25-27 mrt: Rallye de Portugal> Kuipers
14-16 apr: Rally Islas Canarias > Loix
15-17 apr: Jordania Rally > Kuipers
6-8 may: Rally Sardegna > Kuipers (after the finish take a boat to Corsica)
12-15 may: Tour de Corse > Loix
17-19 jun: Acropolis Rally > Kuipers (after the finish take a high speed car to Ypres)
23-25 jun: Ypres Westhoek Rally > Loix
29-31 jul: Finland Rally > Kuipers (after the finish take a plane to Madeira)
4-6 aug: Rali Vinho Madeira > Loix
19-21 aug: Deutschland Rally > Kuipers (after the finish take a high speed car to Barum)
26-28 aug: Barum Rally Zlin > Loix
22-24 sep: Rally Sanremo > Loix (after the finish take a high speed car to the Alsac)
30 sep-2 okt: Rally France- Alsac > Kuipers
21–23 okt: Rallye Catalunya > Kuipers
11-13 nov: Wales Rally GB > Kuipers
plus 2 Belgium rally championship rallies
:D :D+1 Astonishing Miclotte!!Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
It's not that easy my friend. Rallysport is not only about driving skills. You have two people onboard, car and team and only the best combination makes the winner. So comparing Loix in Fabia S2000 (which obviously suits his driving very good and where team allows him to do what he wants) is quite difficult with Evo VI Gr.A (which suited only to Mäkkinen) or with 307 WRC (where he couldn't drive his own setups) or even with 207 S2000 (where it was similar with setup politics). Same applies to any driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by FabiaFan