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I don't see any reason why the team would prefer Hamilton, Kimi spent five years with them and has unfinished business there. When he came there, he was just a kid, and the way he is, I don't think he is in bad terms with them. I know Heikki's treatment hasn't been equal but that is mainly because he hasn't delivered.Quote:
Originally Posted by raikk
DC has hit it on the nail again. He has expressed my view better than I could.Quote:
Originally Posted by raikk
HK isn't doing the job and is #2 because he just isn't quick enough. DC never got to be #1 for the same reason and not because there was a deliberate #1 / #2 policy. It's just that the driver that comes out on top is the #1.
With Lewis and Kimi, it will be the same but I think DC may be doing Kimi a bit of a dis-service if he thinks he's not going to be fired up next year. I think Kimi will be rather galvanised by his treatment ;)
So, now Alonso has signed, how long befor Kimi is confirmed at McLaren (fingers crossed).
Ham and Kim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Sounds like a delicacy, umm, and a good racing duo too!
Hopefully he will find himself at McLaren and embarrasses Ferrari and that prick Montezumas revenge a lot.
“With common consent, we have agreed to terminate the contract binding me to Ferrari to the end of 2010, one year ahead of schedule,” said the Finn. “I am very sad to be leaving a team with which I have spent three fantastic years, during which time I won plenty of races.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...9/9/10016.html
Ba Bye :burnout: :grenade:
Trouble is, of course, who was the last driver to be 'sacked' from Ferrari?
Not very appealing on your CV that your contrcat was terminated early, is it?
Oh well, worse things happen at sea, I mean, just look at the Kirsk.....
If he does indeed go to McLaren it would be the second time that Hamilton has been truly tested against a strong team mate. We know what happened last time, can he go one better?
I shouldn't think Kimi is too worried about his CV ;)
If Kimi does go, it will mean Lewis has been partnered with the 2 other best drivers out there. One that beat Schumacher and one that replaced him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I can't wait :D
If DC is correct, I see Kimi being very happy at Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by raikk
He'll let the younger, hungrier Hamilton do the testing & development work, then he'll show up for the race weekend and GO. Probably means he'll come second to Hamilton, but probably a sacrafice he's willing to make to live the life he wants to. Much like a few years ago when Montoya went to Nascar: less pressure & spotlight, but gets to be with family & live life much happier.
Well, aren't Diageo a McLaren sponsor? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Not sure if even Kimi will be happy with cruising along behind Hamilton. if he goes, he'll want to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Hamilton v Raikkonen will be something to behold though, along with Alonso v Massa :)
Of course he wants to win, they all want to win. I just think Kimi won't be willing to make all the sacrifices to make it happen. imo Kimi would rather just run with his talent. He's got LOADS of talent, but that only gets you so far. To get/stay on the top step, you need to make sacrifices as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
2007 Driver's World ChampionQuote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
2003 and 2005 Runner up
18 Formula One Grand Prix Wins
I think that list would be longer if Kimi was as ruthless and hard working as MS. MS threw morals out the window, and probably couldn't point out his kids in the school class photo during his years at Ferrari. I don't think Kimi is like that. He's smart enough to know that there's more to life than F1 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
"He's smart enough to know that there's more to life than F1 24/7"
Yes, theres vodka and women, in that order of importance.
Its funny how people who dont know sh!t like to think they know him. Ive seen him with his friends close to our summer place and he´s just like the rest of the guys. He just happens to be Kimi.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabf1
No offense, Rab :)
since it seems that Kimi seems to shine in alternate years...2009 could well turn out to be his year :D
It was a joke. Lighten up francis.
Okay, sorry. But how can you tell when so many here seriously question his morals?Quote:
Originally Posted by rabf1
What a season 2010 promises to be!
Sounds like you are saying that rabf1 is pretty much on the money, except maybe on the order of importance. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
Name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me PSYCHO! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rabf1
His year? of coming back to McLaren? :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by harsha
It's longer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Since 2002:
61 podiums from which
18 Grand Prix Wins
20 second place and
23 3rd places
2007 Driver's World Champion
2003 and 2005 Runner Up
2008 in 3rd place ..
Ok you are maybe thinking that the list however would be a bit longer - but i think that's a very good result and as we know and shouldn't forget that much is depending how good the car is..
Kimi retired
2002 10 times
2003 3 times /Runner Up
2004 8 times
2005 2 times /Runner Up
2006 6 times
2007 2 times /Driver's World Champion
2008 2 times /3rd in Driver's World Championship
2009 2 times and we all know how "good" the car is this this year - lack of down force is big disadvantage in some tracks ...
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And I'm sure - if Kimi go back to McLaren 2010 then the list will be even longer.
:)
:up: I hope you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by jas123f1
If Kimi goes back to McLaren - i think he will take the title ones more..Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
And yes, some of us love to speak b*** s*** of Kimi like that "he is a vodka swigging party animal in a stereotypical form Finland" - but if it's true then it's very easy take the title in F1 - isn't it .. even "a vodka swigging party animal" can be a Champion in F1.. :) ..
And what it says of the other drivers?
:)
Last time he handed the WDC and WCC to Ferrari, how can he go better than that ? ;) :p : :laugh: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_166.gif
SkyBet has installed Alonso as 7/2 favourite to win the 2010 world championship! :uhoh: :p : :burnout:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...-ferrari-move/
Keke Rosberg thinks Kimi will go to Mclaren, and usually Keke is well-informed. Using his own words (from the past): "It's difficult to guess when you know." :)
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutise...2009/09/965217
Well, it certainly isn't nice, how Ferrari has treated Räikkönen, making a mess with its contracts in the first place by hiring too many top drivers at once. But I don't think Kimi is downbeat about that, because he can jump into another top team straightaway.
Kimi never ever criticised the team, and this is how they humiliate him. Absolutely no respect for the man and his achievements. Just like Prost in 91. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
As I happy as I am as a Ferrari Fan getting ahold of FA.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I have to agree. Kimi was a good soldier for the Scuderia.
I've never liked the way LdM manages to screw up their f1 operation.
The positive is;
Kimi is still a hot commodity. I think it will be great if he goes to McLaren.
It will be very revealing to see how he stacks up against LH.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
that is a genius quote LOL
I've not heard that one before. but very good :up:
Humiliate? No. Raikkonen has iron-clad self-esteem. The views or opinions of him, or their actions are not something Iceman cares or pays attention to - and it is this great character strength that the weak people dislike him for.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Ferrari? It is they that are losing and surely the central reason that Kimi decided to demonstrate over the past few weeks just what he can do and what the team are sacrificing.
The performance of the Ferrari, since Hungary, including that most brilliant Spa win was not the F60. It was Kimi taking the car by the scruff of the neck and doing what he wanted to.
The team where Raikkonen belongs has always been Mclaren. He always performed well there and it was the car during his years that caused him to lose at least one championship 2005 and easily half a dozen grand prix.
I think Lewis and Kimi are going to get along fine. Hamilton has matured but he does not have the self-assuredness of Kimi.
Raikkonen is a teammate that will not interfere with his teammate and wil do whatever is required as far as interaction is concerned. Other than that he will concentrate on himself and race well with a team, a new team managed by Whitmarsh, that will see to it that no driver is a favorite - they know what they are getting with Kimi and they remember the Alonso histrionics too well.
Same story - no Todt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I hope Raikkonen wins the championship next year.
Same here. Either that or Brawn supremacy again :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
According to news in the Finnish media El Pais has reported that it´ll cost Santander 45 Meuros to get rid of Kimi. 30M for his 2010 salary + 15M to to compensate for breakng the contract.
El Pais also tells that McL will pay Kimi another 20M, which will also come from Santanders pocket.
Dunno if the sums are true (please some Spanish fan check this), but if they are there are 2 enormous winners in this deal. Kimi of course, but also McL who will get a wdc driver for free.
Talk about a steal...
Sorry Kimi fans but Kimi and Kimi alone is to blame for his Ferrari demise. Why the hell was he beaten so comprehensively by Massa? And don't say it was all a conspiracy because they hired Kimi to be the team leader so why would they then favour someone else.
Kimi only performs when Kimi feels like it, thats why Ferrari have cast him aside.
Finally it's done.
I wont have to put up with some of the Kimi fanatics in the Ferrari fan threads anymore. :D
PS: He has a few very knowledgeable fans that I learned to appreciate, but they are very few. :)