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Exactly right. Such is the way of these things today — those in positions of authority, no matter whether in politics, sport or whatever, are advised not to give anything much away in an effort to manage the media's response to a crisis, yet this is usually deeply counter-productive.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Maybe because Goshn was threatening the team with pulling out of F1 and this was their chance to safeguard their future?Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
Like 2 months? The timing of the legal action makes it clear that it's just a knee jerk reaction to Piquet Jr. spitting the beans to the FIA. It's a try to bully him out of his statement + a try to discredit him, however the WMSC meeting will take place before the legal action will have got to far and it's result will influence the legal actions result.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
it is a simple matter of action, reaction and consequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
what is the point of legal action when you can simply quietly try and end the situation. It is also a game of one-upsmanship; and that is pretty much how the world revolves. people have a dispute, one takes action, the other sues for defamation or whatever.
From your perspective it is damned if they do damned if they don't. If they did not take legal action and simply left their statements to the weight of the FIA proceedings, you would be on here arguing that it was a sign of guilt that they didn't take actual legal action.
From your perspective if they defend themselves they are guilty, of they stay quiet they are guilty.
"I will not be bullied again into making a decision I regret" Piquet is a idiot, I hope he wil grow(up) a backbone. The magnitude of his/Renault action is mindboggling, his defence is just pathetic. I'm young, stupid, not a stable character, afraid of the dark, unsure of the future, undecided about my place in society but the teenage mutant ninja turtles rocks.
Turn it on its head.
If PKJnr was asked to crash, why wait till now to say anything.
So, you see, to say why did Flav and Pat wait till now?
Could it be this is all concocted by the PK's?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78532
NPKSnr has form......
Oh dear, oh dear oh dear, oh dear oh dear oh deary dear!
I have a nasty feeling about this. I fail to see what Piquet has to gain from this..... Would be nice to see Flav banned from F1 though :)
In the latest article it was quite revealing that Piquet's comments were about the meeting and the accident, while Flavio's defense is to attack both Piquets.
Sure it is, but the timing is suspicious if they claim that tey were blackmailed 2 months ago already.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Why didn't they start legal procedings back then?
Maybe they were afraid that some wrong doings will be unearthed and kept hoping that Piquet will not spill the beans?! Looks like that to me.
Good one coming from sweaty Flav. So he's been doing business with the Piquet's although he knew that they are such bad people who will hunt him down? How fitting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Looks to me that he just got a backbone, but I wonder when will Flav and Symonds get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daika
well this is actually a tough deal. If Renault are guilty then I hope they are tossed out for good. However with that being said so far all I have gotten is that a inferior driver gassed the car coming out of a corner.
The possible problem is that money and power think they are immune and can buy their way to any result. On the other hand you have a rich whiny prix that has the money to defend anything as well. This thing stinks whichever direction you turn
You might be right about Piquet but I just don't really see what he's got to gain out of this all tbh. Sure if he could have got money for keeping it quiet but it's gone waaaaaaay past that and he aint gonna make any money out of this. Now of course that's not proof that it went down as he says it did but still.....Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
Good. Now that we documented your hate for the Piquets and their money, what about your love for Alonso and Sweaty Flab?! :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
:eek: we once had this morbidly overweight PA at our office........Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
You've just brought back memories of a nasty niff!! ;)
How does it make anything 'clear'? We haven't had the evidence presented yet. There is always a multitude of reasons as to why legal actions can be a long time in coming, just as there are for such actions not being brought at all, or being dropped, or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Sorry for that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Nothing either way. If his allegations are found to be true, no team will ever employ him, because he was a crap driver AND will be viewed with great suspicion. If they aren't, that all still applies, plus he'll be shown to be a liar — not a word to be thrown around lightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Sorry failed connection. That's only my pov, I can even forget what happened to me yesterday... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
The only thing that is absolutely sure already is that Piquet jr will never drive in F1 again. Regardsless of what is the truth in all this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Unless senior buys him a team, of course.
Or would you hire him, guys?
Very true, I could see a point to him lying if he was going to get something out of it but it just doesn't add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I ought to point out that, at present, my view is very much that it doesn't add up either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
True. Let's hope the truth comes out in the wash.
It's very simple - Renault were seriously considering shutting the R-F1 team down if they didn't get some sort of results and quickly. That would take care of the "removal from the sport and about 400 jobs" all by itself, without any regulatory prompting.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Or, as the PDF linked to puts it:
Maybe they thought as some people in this thread do - it was a race towards the end of the season, almost no-one would care, and those that would would keep their mouths shut for fear of driving Renault out of F1. If they truly believed that, they had nothing to lose and everything to gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by http://axisofoversteer.com/blog/documents/Fit%20Of%20PK.pdf
Getting the points for a win, and the jump from fifth to fourth in the WCC, meant a hefty chunk of change for the team all by itself, not to mention the marketing possibilities. If proven, that's WCC money defrauded from Toyota for starters, and points money defrauded from the teams that lost out in the shuffle created by the SC. Not to mention the effect on betting - most "match-fixing scandals" have revolved around betting (which often don't revolve around the actual result, but something trivial like the first throw-in). If they altered the result by dishonest or fraudulent means, they're liable to be sued by anyone who lost money betting on that race; never mind the potential criminal charges in Singapore, France (where Renault are based) and England & Wales (where the RF1 team are based).
Now Briatore indirectly implied that Piquet is gay.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78532
and Barrichello is upset about Briatore exposing Piquet's private life.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78577
What a d***head. I hope this turns out to be true so Flav can be banned for life from taking any part in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by alcatrazhack
Does the phrase "dignified silence" mean nothing to these people? It's like Jordan and Peter Andre constantly popping up on my TV screen and writing endless magazine columns to tell us how they're keeping their thoughts private.
Come to think of it, maybe Jordan and Flavio use the same tanning salon...
I don't think he understands the meaning of either of those words :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
what a idiot - sure be mad if you think youve been wrong but this is below the belt
wouldnt suprise me if flav has bullied the living daylights out of NPJ from the start
The lack of class from Flav is shocking.
I'm not a fan of his but what an mean, spitefull man he seems to be. Hope he gets the push.
I agree with you Knockie. Horrible man......
What a nasty, undignified way to behave. I am all for people being candid with interviewers but there are limits.
Ha ha like Flav the bed-hopper has a leg to stand on. What a nasty piece of work....the sooner he leaves F1 the better.
Yes, the idea of him having any moral authority over anyone is laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Anyone who cheats on Heidi Klum has to be a bit of a fool
Sweaty Flab is the lowest form of life in the F1 paddock, always been like that. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by alcatrazhack
Hope the Piquets sue him for his stupid comments. :D
Now, if I were the Chief Executive of a racing team, and the #2 driver comes up to me and threatens to frame me for race fixing by telling him to crash so that #1 driver can win, unless I extend his contract for another year, this is what I would do:
1. Inform the Police immediately
2. Inform the FIA as soon as I am finished informing the Police
3. I would fire the driver immediately after I am finished informing the FIA.
4. Ban the driver from any contact with all members of the team.
Not only did Flav keep mum about the whole thing, but when questioned by the FIA, Flav's second in charge Pat Symonds becomes extremely evasive with his replies, refusing to answer any relevant questions.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out who is telling the truth.
As I posted before, it would be interesting whether Flav or Pat Symonds will even turn up in Singapore in two weeks time. The ICAC would have good reason to arrest the two for race fixing.
They probably deserved each other. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
LMAOQuote:
"Nelsinho used to live with this gentleman: the nature of their relationship is unknown. His father was very worried about the relationship Nelsinho used to have with this 50-year-old man. They used to live together, and his father asked me to intervene.
"I made this gentleman not come to races anymore, and I made Nelsinho move from Oxford to London in a building where I live, in order to keep him under control.
"I was asked to by his father, and now Nelsinho accuses me of having even taken his friends away from him - I don't know what kind of friends these are, but he accuses me of that."
The WMSC will probably save them on the 21st with a life time ban from F1. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce