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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Cooking? Hmmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Well, not that suprising...
I imagine if Hevia had been ahead of Kopecky it would also have happened.
I believe Nicolas offered to let Kris through. A nice sporting gesture from a team mate.
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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Basso epic fail as usual -.-
But indeed he pushes like a mad ... very hard to stay on the road with that rhythm.
From Autosport.com:
"Proton driver Guy Wilks hit trouble this morning, having climbed as high as fifth place yesterday. The Englishman went off on some loose gravel - which he says was put there deliberately by spectators - in a braking area on today's second stage."
Thanks for videos.. :)
On this video You can see Basso's off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hWL8OTYqU
There's absolutely nothing WRCish in tactics. Rally is a sport and where there's a competition, there's tactics. That's just how it goes. I'm amused by the fact that some people just don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Weird, it wasn't a tight corner ... unlike in Ypres ^^;Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
That's your view Mr Koo. I expressed my view. Others expressed their views.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
But please don't patronise me with this "that's how it goes" nonsense. We'll all aware of what goes on, we're all aware why it goes on. We all "get it", doesn't mean I or indeed others have to agree with it.
In this particular case, as I mentioned earlier, I believe Vouilloz offered the place to Meeke rather than being ordered by the team. That being the case it was a gentlemanly gesture.
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Originally Posted by noel157
Louise Becket is beautiful.. I hope WRC will find some girl to present sport in better way.. To much male sweat around it.. :)
I'm not patronizing you or anyone else. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
I personally just don't understand how people can't accept it's part of the sport. You don't have to explain it to me, everyone has a right to have their own opinion and I duly respect it. I'm not on a crusade here.
However, I don't understand the logic how you make a tactical decision (which you hate) a gentlemanly gesture because the "active participant" is a driver and not a team manager. Drivers drive in a team so they have to be team players. Now that Vouilloz gave up his spot, Meeke climbs up to second and that's okay. If the team manager would have ordered this, the final results would have been the same but that would have been dirty tactics... Even though this time it was the drivers decision, it's still tactics. I appreciate Vouilloz for doing that, but I would have appreciated the team manager just as much if it would have been his decision. :)
Maybe Nicolas wants to be sure for next season..
In my opinion it was team decision but that doesn't matter. Funny that Kopecký may lost the tittle battle because they didn't apply tactics in Russia. But for Škoda tittle wasn't a target this year, they wanted to promote the car by a couple of victories and that was achieved. The fact Kopecký is in a fight for the crown is more a nice bonus :)
:down: for Kronos
Congratulations for Kopecky!
Congratulations for Kopecký and Škoda Motorsport. A pity that Hevia had that puncture, that means 2 points extra for Meeke.
Again teamorders by Kronos. They did it so much times in the past and now again. There are so much Pug’s and still they use teamorders.
Much respect for Kopecký, Hänninen and Škoda Motorsport, they didn’t do that in Russia. Probably an Italian wins Sanremo, but I hope Jan can keep Meeke behind him in that rally too. I hope the recce that he did last year in Sanremo will help him.
Go on Kris, I'm absolutely delighted for him, a great recovery from the puncture :) , tactics are part of the game guys and they make the sport more interesting.
Well done to Kris and Kronos :D :D
If the title does go down to the wire it could be the case that Hanninen might now have to do the same for Kopecky in Scotland, that would be a shame as IRC does generally seem a little less plagued by tactical nonsense than WRC.
They make the sport more interesting? You only said that because Meeke has now a second place and no third place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
A short translation of what Kopecký said:
"I wasn't surprised. After the first stage of the last loop I asked Kris if they would swap possitions and he said yes. I thought to myself it was all right, I couldn't change it anyhow. It's their decission."
Fabia is equivalent to Peugeot-no doubt about that, regardless of the surface....This is excellent comercial for Škoda Motorsport, I think they will sell many Fabias to the private teams during winter pause. Abarth is still not for the old rubbish, Basso will be in San Remo definitely benchmark for others.
It will be great competition in San Remo..
And you dont like them because he took two points back from Jan Kopecky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza
Tactics play a part in every sport and motorsport is no different. It comes down to who is able to use them better.
You are entitled to your own view point, but still you are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
Tactics dont pollute every sport yet thankfully, I thought the IRC was above them, I was wrong on this, Peugeot thanks to the number of competitors have many more chances to screw results, and it stinks a bit in my opinion.
Ps.I am and have been a fan of both Meeke and Kopecky for years now, they are 2 great drivers, and I really hope this isnt how the championship is decided
As I said it comes down to who is able to use the tactics better, Skoda had the chance to let Jan finish ahead of Juho in Russia and they failed to do so, Peugeot got there oppurtunity today, they took it and rightly so.
In your opinion... Are you so desperite for success for 'your man' that you feel the manner that it is achieved in is not important? Tune in to a bit of Moto GP to you see how team mates should treat each other :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
Let the new FIA president enter and maybe they will ban tactics, and i sure hope they do so because this is starting to get really annoying!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
Its just my opinion !!!!!!
Skoda had there oppurtunity which they failed to take so dont complain.
If Kris wins the champpionship he will have it well earned and he will be the rightfull winner.
I find Meeke a great driver. I said in my post that Kronos used so much tactics in the past and now again. They do it for more than 10 years now. I have a problem with that, not with Meeke as a driver or as a person. He is by far the biggest talent for Ireland / UK now and in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
Škoda failed to do so? Škoda took the right decision with the victory of Juho in Russia. Even when Kopecký loses the championship by 1 point, than I find it good that Juho took the victory there. It is only their first season with the new Fabia, you may not forget that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forde-fotos
Look at the results in Madeira with 8 Peugeot’s in the top 9. You must understand that it is good for the fans, spectators and of course for Škoda and Kopecký that they do the rest of the championship. I prefer to have as much different marques as possible. Without Škoda, Peugeot should have no strong opposition, because the Fiat is not so fast and not reliable enough.
Hevia crying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6FQJ2Xhhw
He says he didn't know how he suffered the puncture, he was securing its second place...
Horror.. People are dying and he's cryin'..
Have a heart! This was a pretty cruel blow for Hevia who drove a great rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Still workin'.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yet and not only for him, but also for the Skoda team! Anyway, Hevia showed great performance. That's IMHO great about IRC: local drivers able to fight for victory and support car maker they drive with...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Peugeot is champion by the way...
This's only sport.. Nothing else..